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Bud9051 01-21-2019 10:37 PM

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If the floor to ceiling without drywall is 9' 1.5" you are not that far off. Ceiling drywall goes up first so that takes up 1/2". Then you don't set the drywall on the floor, up 1/2" would be common. That leaves the bottom of your drywall still backed by 1/2" of bottom plate.

If you don't like the gap, install a piece of something to fill it after the drywall is up.

Bud

Bryan n Deb 01-21-2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nealtw (Post 5747093)
Inspector don't like the 3rd on top but the extra one on the bottom never seems to raise eyebrows.

Only planned on 1 top and 1 bottom. I pretty much have to add to the bottom or there will be no place to attach the bottom of the sheetrock.

Two Knots 01-21-2019 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan n Deb (Post 5747127)
Right, and nobody will know about the 1.5 inches. As stated above I will have about 1.5 inches not covered by sheetrock at the bottom of the wall.

I would say that the builder has to add a 1 1/2 strip of Sheetrock
and sparkle and tape as well. Seems to me its his problem, not yours.
This will be covered with floor molding anyhow.

Bryan n Deb 01-21-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Knots (Post 5747145)
I would say that the builder has to add a 1 1/2 strip of Sheetrock
and sparkle and tape as well. Seems to me its his problem, not yours.
This will be covered with floor molding anyhow.

I am the builder, I hired a crew to put up a shell. My problem.:crying:

Two Knots 01-21-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan n Deb (Post 5747155)
I am the builder, I hired a crew to put up a shell. My problem.:crying:

Oh, no matter, you still need to Sheetrock, tape and sparkle the bottom
before adding the molding.

Nealtw 01-21-2019 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan n Deb (Post 5747143)
Only planned on 1 top and 1 bottom. I pretty much have to add to the bottom or there will be no place to attach the bottom of the sheetrock.

OK, confused me, the normal is 2 plates on top
and you have 104 1/4 + 4 1/2 wall at 108 3/4 in Canada
or 104 5/8 + 4 1/2 wall is 109 1/8


5/8 ceiling goes up first leaving 1/4" in Canada. and nothing in the US

Bryan n Deb 01-21-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nealtw (Post 5747163)
OK, confused me, the normal is 2 plates on top
and you have 104 1/4 + 4 1/2 wall at 108 3/4 in Canada
or 104 5/8 + 4 1/2 wall is 109 1/8


5/8 ceiling goes up first leaving 1/4" in Canada. and nothing in the US

I could be wrong but because the walls are not supporting anything I only need one top plate. Also doing 1/2 ceiling rock. I could do 5/8 I guess but an eighth wont make or break this.

Nealtw 01-21-2019 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan n Deb (Post 5747181)
I could be wrong but because the walls are not supporting anything I only need one top plate. Also doing 1/2 ceiling rock.

You want to top plates so the top plate can be lapped where they meet and lock together, You are not supposed to nail them to the trusses just some little clips, the walls need all the help they can get.
All lumber has a crown or bend to it so the top 2 plates are crown opposite to each other and straightened with sucker nails to make the wall straight.

fire rated dry wall should be in your code and it is 5/8 for ceilings

Nealtw 01-21-2019 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan n Deb (Post 5747181)
I could be wrong but because the walls are not supporting anything I only need one top plate. Also doing 1/2 ceiling rock. I could do 5/8 I guess but an eighth wont make or break this.

We only do two top plates in basement when we need them for height because everything can be nailed solid to the joists above. We are taking about years of fixing cracks and looking a warped walls. What you need and what you want are two different things.
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Bryan n Deb 01-21-2019 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nealtw (Post 5747195)
You want to top plates so the top plate can be lapped where they meet and lock together, You are not supposed to nail them to the trusses just some little clips, the walls need all the help they can get.
All lumber has a crown or bend to it so the top 2 plates are crown opposite to each other and straightened with sucker nails to make the wall straight.

fire rated dry wall should be in your code and it is 5/8 for ceilings

My inlaws just had a house built and 5/8 rock was on the print. Found out later 1/2 was used but building inspector says its fine. Ill make a phone call on that one.

LawnGuyLandSparky 01-22-2019 01:37 AM

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Just use 10' sheetrock cut to size.

Domo 01-22-2019 01:47 AM

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Nail a 1-1/2" nailer for the ceiling sheetrock around the entire perimeter - you need something to nail to anyway. Then frame to 9' for all interior walls.

No big deal - that's the type of task that goes to the new guy. Better yet - have that framing crew do it on their dime.

Bryan n Deb 01-22-2019 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky (Post 5747261)
Just use 10' sheetrock cut to size.

Thought about that but then id have a vertical seam floor to ceiling every 4 feet.
Id rather lay it down and have 1 seam all the way around the room.

Bryan n Deb 01-22-2019 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Domo (Post 5747263)
Nail a 1-1/2" nailer for the ceiling sheetrock around the entire perimeter - you need something to nail to anyway. Then frame to 9' for all interior walls.

No big deal - that's the type of task that goes to the new guy. Better yet - have that framing crew do it on their dime.

Wouldnt you have to put nailers up on at least 4' centers all across the rooms?

ClarenceBauer 01-22-2019 07:57 AM

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Maybe you need to think about switching to metal studs cut to your required lengths & order 54 inch wide Gypsum Board. Use fire rated deflection track @ the top & cold rolled channel for bridging.


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