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Old 07-25-2016, 11:12 PM   #16
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Sorry. It's a knee jerk reaction trying to stop someone from walking towards a cliff. It comes from too many observations and too many help posts here as well. Trying as well, not to get burned out on paying attention to post-mistake stories.
I suppose I'd remove - cut with circular saw if necessary - bottom row or two of the siding and underlayment. If just the rim is damaged, I might consider attaching 2x10 or 12 to bottom of the wall studs. Continuously over the door opening as well and you can cut the door opening once it's located. Nail the corners. Then another layer, stagger the corner joint. What you have is a double beam for the rim with best corner for the cost. Might take heavy corner angle metal but what's found in homedepot is not big enough. Angle will have to be min 1/4" steel with 4-5" flanges and 3-4 min 1/2" holes for the bolts. Once located, leave the beam in place, put a drip edge over them overlapped by the siding. Drill into the bottom of the siding and hold it down with roofing nails.
Remove the windows in transit. Again, inspect the electric and gas, if going to use them. Most likely youll take a generator, so I'd rewire the whole thing. Use wire mold or bx. I think maybe conduits in case the mice or such come in and chew up the works.
I haven't talked about the floor joists because the photo seems to show pt joist in good condition. I just saw a picture somebody posted about how to frame and deck a floor and assumed you need whole new floor.
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Try to remove all of the old rotted wood, before adding any new.

Old rot has a tendency to infect any new it is close to.

Here's an idea.

A FEMA trailer, with a shack built around it to disguise the fact that it is a trailer.

No one but you and yours will ever know.


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Good Lord! Do you sell FEMA trailers or what!?! LOL! NO TRAILER! :D

Thanks for the pointers Carpdad. I assume you mean to do the beam before we move it? Have to think about that. Good tip on removing the windows, especially since the road is kinda bumpy...but we'll definitely give it a serious looking over tomorrow.
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My god, yes, make the repairs before you move it. Moving it in that condition may do even more damage.
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I guess I'm just shocked that everyone thinks this place is falling down. It truly doesn't look that bad in person. I figured someone would just tell me how to replace the rim joist and how difficult and costly that will be. At this point, I really do think that's all there is wrong with it. I mean, it sat for several years on a parking lot, was sold and moved to this guys farm. It hasn't been drug all over or anything...

But, tonight we'll actually take some tools, etc., and see if the seller will let us peel back some siding and carpet and double check how deep the rot is. I'll take more photos and see what I can see.

If anyone would like to tell me what to look for specifically, feel free. Keep in mind - he's only asking $800 and it only needs to last 3-4 more years before it'll be replaced. But it does need to be moved about 30 miles on a truck.

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2nd on repairs BEFORE trying to move. Use the beam, never use the wall or the floor structure. I would reaally want to remove the inside wall sheathing and inspect the condition of studs and wall underlayment, if full sheathing, boards or battens, as well as how the rafters are attached to the wall.
If you have the price of moving, why don't you ask the mover as well? Who moved it before and how long ago?

Am rethinking the beam idea. If the beam is on the wall studs and floor gets stuck, you could rip the wall out while trying to pull the structure. I think you will have to repair/reinforce the floor and even then not try to drag it. The move must be on something on wheels.
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If I was going to replace it in 3-4 years anyway, I would go to the local military surplus store, get a hard-sided tent, and use that.
Cheaper, easy to move, set-up. and will last the 3-4 years with time to spare.

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Ha! bet you thought I was gonna try to sell you an old FEMA trailer.

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Am rethinking the beam idea. If the beam is on the wall studs and floor gets stuck, you could rip the wall out while trying to pull the structure. I think you will have to repair/reinforce the floor and even then not try to drag it. The move must be on something on wheels.
Oh we're not dragging it anywhere! It was moved by truck to this farm a few months ago and will be moved by truck again. The seller said the mover (who we can hire as well) had a big tow-truck with a flat bed that tilts, like they put SUV's and such on to move them. He hooked his winch up to the skids and pulled it up on the truck and let it off the same way. He charged the current owner $100. We figure we'll have to pay a little more than that because it'll be a bit farther.

I am fairly sure that the majority of the floor structure itself is in good shape. The seller, my husband, and myself were all in it at once, walking around and my husband and I alone exceed 500 lbs (TOGETHER - NOT EACH!). Anyway, we kind of did the "bounce" thing and it didn't make the place shake at all, even though it's sitting on uneven ground. But there is carpet now and we'll pull it back and take a look as well as seeing if we can get some more images by camera underneath. It's too short to really look under.
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If I was going to replace it in 3-4 years anyway, I would go to the local military surplus store, get a hard-sided tent, and use that.
Cheaper, easy to move, set-up. and will last the 3-4 years with time to spare.

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Ha! bet you thought I was gonna try to sell you an old FEMA trailer.

I actually have never heard of a hard-sided tent. Though if we wanted a tent, we have a 15 x 18 medieval pavilion we would use.
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You'll all be happy to hear that, upon further inspection of the cabin, we've decided to give it a pass. Not because the rot was too extensive; in fact, I think it was better in some places than we'd thought it was - for starters, the skids were only soft about 3 inches back on one end and less than that on the other and photos of the underside showed the joists in pretty good condition. But, the inside is in worse shape than we thought and all that paneling needs replaced and while the roofing material is in good shape, they did a hell of a poor job putting it on. After pricing siding, roofing (same material actually), paneling and some lumber for the structural repairs...it isn't worth it. Plus, it's been sitting out of square quite a while, which worried us.

So thank you for your time. I appreciate it. We'll save our pennies for something else.

It won't be a FEMA trailer.
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I have a chicken coop in better shape than that, but the transportation cost from here to there is a big NO.

We were not trying to squash your dreams, just trying to save you some grief (buyers remorse), on that .

Many of us have too much experience in this subject, and have seen very similar things happen.

You might think about a shed kit from one of the box stores, but they have limits too.

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You might think about a shed kit from one of the box stores, but they have limits too.

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Actually, that's becoming more of a possibility all the time. What do you mean by "limits"?

Another concern we started having last night is that we have one sharp turn in the road to our property that we're a little worried about a truck making, hauling one of the pre-built cabins. We need to find someone who moves portable buildings and just pay them to go look at it I guess, so we'll know what we can and can't have delivered. Would suck big time to buy something and then find out they can't get it there.
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Shed kit limits.

No windows.
one door.
cheapest materials available.
no insulation.
needs a solid base to build on.
no lights.
no plumbing.


How about a steel shipping container? Allowed?

Then you will need to add all the above too. But it is solid and bear proof.


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Shed kit limits.

How about a steel shipping container? Allowed?

Then you will need to add all the above too. But it is solid and bear proof.


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Funny you mention that, my husband and I were looking at them on-line yesterday. There's a place in St. Louis that sells 40' ones for $1,500. Of course, they'd still need moved half way across the state and I'm not at all sure a semi would get to our property because of that turn. Plus, they need like 2 1/2 times the space, in a straight line, to drop one off and if you don't like where they put them, you have to hire a crane to move it. Even a 20' one would be pushing it if they have to use a tractor/trailer to deliver it. Plus, 8 x 20 is a little small. We'd prefer at least 10 or 12 x 20, minimum.

Yeah...all things considered, building might be all we can do. We're not too worried about bears. lol
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Glad to hear you passed. I know you thought it wasn't "so bad" but I'm not sure what you gained by it.

Do you need this thing to be mobile? Because a $1000 could go a long ways towards making a little shed/cabin.
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