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Old 03-31-2016, 06:38 PM   #1
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Removing an old elevator with balancing weights


I know this post is old, but I'm in need of some help. I have an elevator I have been asked to remove and I'm not worried about the removal, I'm worried about the stacks of weights on the other end of the chains. One end of the chains are connected to the elevator box, the other has a ton of weights on it. So when I think about it, if I cut the weights off the box's come crashing down, if I cut the chain off the box the weights come down? Ant order in how I should do this? I'm very mechanically cline, I just need like a step process so I don't end up hurt or dead. Haha any help would be great thanks
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Usually the floor is just reframed for an opening--then a support member (usually a lam-beam) is attached for the carriage--then standard framing for the walls--Well in the floor for the bottom of the cage--

Not any special skills needed to remove----Take it away!!


My mother used to wish for a hinged floor in our bedroom --so she could just pull a leaver and every thing in the room would just drop to the basement--

This might be the chance to build a self cleaning kids room-Just a thought.
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Also forgot to say, the owner said that the rails on the walls can stay.
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You need to lower one or the other, weights or box. Box is probably easier. Then attach a winch to the cables. Cut cable free from box and lower weights with winch.
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Seriously, you plan to take on what by your description is a life threatening project if done incorrectly. And you seek help from an internet chat room? This vaguely reminds me of the post about dynamiting a basement, and looking for assistance in how to place the charges....
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I've never worked on an elevator with weights---

How tall is tha shaft? how much heat space above the cage?
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I made this into its own thread.

Let's see if anyone else has any experience with this job.

Do you have any pictures of the weights? Can the box be lowered to the bottom of the shaft and then remove the weights a few at a time?
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In my understanding of elevator systems, both the car and the counterbalance should both have a locking mechanism to keep either one from falling to the bottom of the shaft in the event of a failure.

So look them over, then lock the weights at the top, and start disassembling the weights one by one and trudging them downstairs.

Then lower the Chain down with a winch to the car, and disassemble it.


just be careful, as these things are dangerous, you have an open shaft, you should have a lot of weight overhead.

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I know this post is old, but I'm in need of some help. I have an elevator I have been asked to remove and I'm not worried about the removal, I'm worried about the stacks of weights on the other end of the chains. One end of the chains are connected to the elevator box, the other has a ton of weights on it. So when I think about it, if I cut the weights off the box's come crashing down, if I cut the chain off the box the weights come down? Ant order in how I should do this? I'm very mechanically cline, I just need like a step process so I don't end up hurt or dead. Haha any help would be great thanks
how many floors are you talking? height from top to bottom?
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I don't think my post was disrespectful.I thought the Op's post was disrespectful to a member of the forum that is very helpful and knowledgeable.It hit a nerve with me and I replied in a decent manner .I thought.
Of course you are the mod and I respect your opinion also.Sorry for any inconvenience to you.
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The post from Daniel Holzman is the post that was disrespectful, yet you delete mine? What kind of forum do you run here? So I can ask a question or for help and someone can come on here and disrespect me for my question? Seriously? I think the mods here need to look into things before they react. I guess we can just get on a post and make them feel horrible because they ask a question......
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What kind of forum do you run here?
One that speaks the truth (most of the time). In your case you received spot on advise. Sorry if that isn't what you wanted to hear.
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LMAO - hell, driving down the road is life threatening even if you do it correctly. Go for it when you get it analyzed how.

I don't have any advise without seeing it but I will say a counter balance can be water and that can easily be adjusted as needed.
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Seriously, you plan to take on what by your description is a life threatening project if done incorrectly. And you seek help from an internet chat room? This vaguely reminds me of the post about dynamiting a basement, and looking for assistance in how to place the charges....


WWHHHHHAAAAATTTTT???

You must find that post and share it! OMG, the things people will attempt!!
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