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Old 05-25-2017, 10:39 PM   #31
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Re: rafter vs truss for 8x16 shed


Cutting birds mouths are not that hard and something you should learn on a shed where the stakes are not that high.
First, get yourself one of these, a speed square aka rafter square:

Best $8 you're going to spend this year. Lay it on your 2x4 and pivot it to line up the pitch number/angle so you can mark the cut. Dead simple. If you get the one from Johnson it comes with a manual showing all the uses. It does a lot and once you use it you'll see why it's in every framer's tool belt.
As far as cutting the plywood, chalk line and cut away! If you're still having trouble getting it straight enough, then measure the distance from the blade to the side of the saw and clamp a 2x4 to the plywood that far over and you'll have a guide to run your saw against giving you a cut as straight as your 2x4 (so pick a good straight one or use the factory cut edge of another plywood sheet)
None of us knew how to do these things when we were born. We all had to try them a first time at some point. After you do it once or twice it'll be second nature.
Oh yeah...don't take any design or construction cues from Home Depot sheds.
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:41 PM   #32
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Hey 123pugsy, how do you do the bottom gussets? Any simple way to do them? They look solid.
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Is it not easier to buy a tie plate from HD? They're a buck each to 3x9 (total trusses) = $27
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Hey 123pugsy, how do you do the bottom gussets? Any simple way to do them? They look solid.
1/2" plywood.
Use some PL and screws.

To get the shape, screw one truss together and trace it onto the plywood or better a piece of cardboard for a more accurate template.

Make sure your bottom chord is installed evenly spaced from the peak and the shape will be automatically correct.

Use your first one as a jig to join the others. I screwed small pieces of scrap on the first one so when I laid the next one on top, they would be locked in position and they would all be the same.

I've never used tie plates before, so no comment...
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I just looked at HD website and it looks like they would work fine.
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I built my bird shed using rafter tie plates (Simpson makes them). Very strong, easy to use, fast. I also installed a ridge beam, and connected the rafters using plates at the top as well as at the wall.
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