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Old 09-21-2019, 11:27 AM   #16
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READ the specifications on the HD link...SS . Call it what you want.


Just like we old timers call all power circular saws a Skilsaw, and all different brand name slip joint pliers.."channel locks". Every person I see going to use a cable puller tells their helper,

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I didn't write any of the rules or safety codes but I know what's on the sticker on mine and I'm sure the widow's attorney would study those in depth.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:33 AM   #17
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Come-alongs are not rated for overhead lifting, but a similar looking device called a ratchet lever hoist is used this way.
Some off us carry the real thing and they are rated for a straight up lift My smallest one is rated for 1500 lbs on a double hook up.

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I didn't write any of the rules or safety codes but I know what's on the sticker on mine and I'm sure the widow's attorney would study those in depth.
Well, get your attorney to sue HD for falsely advertising a tool in my link that should not be used, for what they LISTED stating it could be used for which is "lifting" .

And ALL tools have to be used while abiding by the tools warning label. If the user chooses not to obey the tools warning label, its on them if they get hurt when the tool malfunctions or fails, due to their not using the tool per instructions.

My cable tool warning label in the pic just states for the user to not lift people or to stand under whatever one is lifting. If someone does not know to not stand under something heavy enough that requires six men or a lifting tool, then with them getting squashed if something goes wrong, then it is in ON them...literally.


And there is NO way I would put any load on a tool being made today, with the FULL amount of load that it states it will handle. My puller is rated 4000 pounds and NO way would I load it either pulling or lifting 2 tons.
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Well, get your attorney to sue HD for falsely advertising a tool in my link that should not be used, for what they LISTED stating it could be used for which is "lifting" .

And ALL tools have to be used while abiding by the tools warning label. If the user chooses not to obey the tools warning label, its on them if they get hurt when the tool malfunctions or fails, due to their not using the tool per instructions.

My cable tool warning label in the pic just states for the user to not lift people or to stand under whatever one is lifting. If someone does not know to not stand under something heavy enough that requires six men or a lifting tool, then with them getting squashed if something goes wrong, then it is in ON them...literally.


And there is NO way I would put any load on a tool being made today, with the FULL amount of load that it states it will handle. My puller is rated 4000 pounds and NO way would I load it either pulling or lifting 2 tons.
Come a longs use a neat trick, the handle is an aluminum pipe. before you over pull the weight you bend the handle and when you try to straighten it, it breaks.
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Come a longs use a neat trick, the handle is an aluminum pipe. before you over pull the weight you bend the handle and when you try to straighten it, it breaks.

Now this is a great idea in blue, but I wonder how many people will stick a piece of 3/4" black iron pipe in the tool and keep on pulling and lifting.

The cable tool in my pic above Neal, would you load it with 2 tons ?
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Now this is a great idea in blue, but I wonder how many people will stick a piece of 3/4" black iron pipe in the tool and keep on pulling and lifting.

The cable tool in my pic above Neal, would you load it with 2 tons ?
Not a chance. I have just refused to use those for anything. Years ago there was one like that made in the US but they were much heavier than that.
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With the lift in the middle and a couple people on each end, it went pretty smoothly. It’s sitting on 3 2x6 jack studs at each end. Is 3 enough, or would anyone suggest more? I made the bottom plates long enough for 4 if necessary
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With the lift in the middle and a couple people on each end, it went pretty smoothly. It’s sitting on 3 2x6 jack studs at each end. Is 3 enough, or would anyone suggest more? I made the bottom plates long enough for 4 if necessary
The person that engineered this would know.
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With the lift in the middle and a couple people on each end, it went pretty smoothly. It’s sitting on 3 2x6 jack studs at each end. Is 3 enough, or would anyone suggest more? I made the bottom plates long enough for 4 if necessary
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With the lift in the middle and a couple people on each end, it went pretty smoothly. It’s sitting on 3 2x6 jack studs at each end. Is 3 enough, or would anyone suggest more? I made the bottom plates long enough for 4 if necessary
You are likely good as the compressive strength of a 2x4 is over 600 lbs and you are spanning 2 columns. Out of curiosity, how big is the i-beam. I placed a 8-10" (cant remember) i beam in basement to remove a pole and its only 16' across (span). I know you are only supporting a roof, but 25' is a good span. The footer is also critical. Its not just the area at the bottom of the 3 2x6's.

Your engineers architecturals should have this on the schematic. An engineered workup should be no more than $500 stamped. Well worth the cash.
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It’s 12” tall. 30lbs per foot. The steel company measured and calculated with their software and told me it was that or 14” at 26 lbs per foot.

Each end starts right on the foundation, which is poured concrete. Under one end is a 2x6 wall in the basement right under the rest of the post, and the other end has a 2x4 wall running along the foundation, which catches the inside of the post.

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It’s 12” tall. 30lbs per foot. The steel company measured and calculated with their software and told me it was that or 14” at 26 lbs per foot.

Each end is basically right on the foundation, which is poured concrete.
I think they figure that weight disperses into the concrete at a 45* so if the foundation is 8 ft high the weight will be spread out to 16 ft of the footing.

Then you should be in good shape.
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You are likely good as the compressive strength of a 2x4 is over 600 lbs and you are spanning 2 columns.
Well, it's not just the weight of the beam, but the stuff it's supporting too!
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Well, it's not just the weight of the beam, but the stuff it's supporting too!
...under the impression that the 3-2x6's are only to hold up the beam temporarily. Didnt think they are replacing a column with dimensional lumber?
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The lifts have a 2.5 to 1 safety factor required per OSHA. Scaffolding is 4 to 1 as per OSHA. You violated the safety rating for the lift but were no where near a failure loading. It's over and done and life goes on.
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