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Old 10-16-2009, 07:28 AM   #16
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I have no problems with Willie T and never have had any, I just wasn't sure why he quoted me. He explained it and we both moved on. I think if either of us had a real problem with each other we are both big boys and could work it out ourselves.

I have maintained my position with regards to this post consistently. Please feel free to elaborate as to how you think I have contradicted myself with the statements made here.
Let it go with post #14
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:43 AM   #17
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No. Elaborate please. I really would like to know why you think I contradicted myself. You made a statement you have yet to back up. By the way, you do realize the quote you quoted from me was not related to one of WTs posts, right? You do also realize that the extra cost associated with the fix, if this was indeed a mistake and not done deliberately to hit virgin soil, should be assumed by the contractor at fault? Please, tell me where I am wrong and have contradicted myself. I really would like to know.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:37 AM   #18
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Gentlemen,
I have a sometimes overbearing approach with my long-winded attempts to help out. If I had simply begun my elaboration post with a qualifying statement of agreement, my intentions might have been more clearly presented.

I was amiss in not doing so, and I really do apologize. It is honestly only natural that someone reading a post of theirs quoted by another would see the reply as taking exception to what they had originally said. I will try to work more sensitively on this in the future. But please bear with me if my efforts aren't immediately obvious. I'm kind of old, and some habits die hard.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:07 AM   #19
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Willy T,
I never felt an apology was necessary nor did I intend to come across as confrontational. I apologize to you as well if I did come across that way. You explained your post adequately and we both moved on. I have read many of your posts on both sites and highly respect your opinions. I also can be a bit abrupt, gruff, confrontational and sensitivity tends to get lost somewhere along the way in our industry. Old habits die hard and I hold no ill will towards you.
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I apologize if I offended anyone.

Let's just move on as you stated in post # 15 and 16.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:05 PM   #21
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My best friend and I had a fist fight that lasted almost 7 minutes the very first day we met. That was nearly 55 years ago. And we still email almost every week today.

There's hope.
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What I like about this site is the input that you pros offer. It offers us DIYers a different insight into how to handle problems. In my DIY mind I was picturing "overdug" as a few inches in a couple places. I'm thinking well it's only 30' of footing, maybe 16" wide so if it's just a few inches off in some areas then maybe we're talking a 1/2 yard of concrete or less. Around here that would be about $40 (and I assumed the only real added cost was concrete since this is a DIY site.) I'm thinking, why stress out about finding the right fill, getting it delivered, placing it and renting a compactor and compacting it to specs when I can just add a 1/2 yard to my order when I call the Readymix plant.

But now I see that to you pros overdug is indeed overdug as in major foul up. And your solutions are great for such a foulup.
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did we ever find out how overdug this is? Pending how overdug it is,... set footing at height originally needed + order extra. As the last post stated + possibly others, by the time you get material, place, + compact. As long as we aren't talking major overdig
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:53 PM   #24
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It's true that we don't know for certain that this really is a serious over excavation. And almost all footings are "overdug" to an extent. At least the ones I do are. I make certain of that. Never, ever "underdug". As you said, a few inches here and there are nothing to be concerned with.

So, I think we just automatically went with a worst case scenario.
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