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Old 03-10-2011, 07:23 PM   #16
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While we met with both the builder and GC today I still will have a builder friend of mine stop by on Sat. for a look see. They could be blowing smoke up my butt and I wouldn't know it. I'm happy enough with the room as is, the GC agreed to place/install the crown moldings for me so that you won't notice the pitch in the ceiling.

The explanation of not enough space to accommodate for the plans as drawn will have to fly for now, the architect agreed with that. I again made my point of what the "Law" in NJ states about making changes without written notice and a change in the work order (my understanding) as per the contract.

After my friend comes to see the job I'll report back, thanks again for taking the time to consider my problem.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:35 PM   #17
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OK my friend Bob the builder came by to look at my addition today and basicly told me I over reacted. The GC should have gotten written permission from me or the architect but when all was said and done he didn't have much of another option other then to stop the job cold.

He did question the roofing membrane used in the roofing though. It is called Dex-o-tec and as per the co. rep it comes with a 1 yr. warrenty!

now I've got to check into this a bit more and will do so come monday but a 1 yr. warr. on a roof does not hold up well with anyone.
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I guess after reading all this, the only thing I don't understand is how a 100sq foot addition cost 50k!

But in all seriousness, I don't quite think you explained why the ceiling didn't match up. There is a lot of reasons why this might not be possible, but I'm curious why in your case?


On my addition I'm using 2x10 floor joists instead of 2x8 on the existing dwelling, plus I'm using a double PT sil so the foundation must be pored to exact specs and accounting for the T+G subfloor, and standard 3/4" hardwood so the finished floors line up. Normally you would then run a 92 5/8" stud between a single bottom plate and double top plate to give you 96 5/8" from the subfloor to the ceiling joists. Then subtract finish flooring and whatever the ceiling is (5/8" sheet?) and your a hair under 8'.

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Old 03-13-2011, 07:11 PM   #19
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I guess after reading all this, the only thing I don't understand is how a 100sq foot addition cost 50k!

But in all seriousness, I don't quite think you explained why the ceiling didn't match up. There is a lot of reasons why this might not be possible, but I'm curious why in your case?


On my addition I'm using 2x10 floor joists instead of 2x8 on the existing dwelling, plus I'm using a double PT sil so the foundation must be pored to exact specs and accounting for the T+G subfloor, and standard 3/4" hardwood so the finished floors line up. Normally you would then run a 92 5/8" stud between a single bottom plate and double top plate to give you 96 5/8" from the subfloor to the ceiling joists. Then subtract finish flooring and whatever the ceiling is (5/8" sheet?) and your a hair under 8'.

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In short there were assumptions on part of both parties. When the GC told me the old ceiling used 2X8's and he'd have to fir the beems so it would be level with the new ceiling I assumed he would still be making the new ceiling 8' as per the plans and that the old ceiling was over 8' to start with.

In this instance he the GC is wrong cause any changes must be made in writting to both me and the architect. It is written in the drawings and contract.

Once my friend showed me there was no real choice I saw it in perspective and understood. The GC did put himself in a bad spot as I did have legal options that he clearly would have lost. (wording of the contract is clear and in my favor)

As for the price you have to remember that they added a new roof above the garage and resided the entire house. I was shocked when est. first came in but after seeing a few of them I understood it for what it is. there are many people and conditions that GC's must follow and answer to, raising the cost of operation.
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I still have an issue with the roofing material they used and with it's application process, will follow up on it come monday morning and report back.
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Sounds to me like the GC assumed that the ceiling heights should match.

In my experience, contractors mostly don't read plans and don't ask questions, so if you're not around watching everything, it probably won't come out exactly like you wanted. I'm sure there are exceptions, and there are probably plenty of contractors who diligently follow plans. I just don't have any experience with that type of contractor


In my experience the only people on site who can actually read the plans properly are contractors and architects.
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