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Old 06-20-2011, 11:41 AM   #16
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A few issues here:

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In this pic, all of the dimensions/heights should be equal to within about 1/4".





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In this pic, the siding really should have been removed at the red line. There's rarely a good excuse to poor siding into the concrete, other than ignorance or laziness. In your situation, it sounds like it would have been real easy for the concrete sub to lay this out when the siding was being done. OR, if he hadn't apparently been so busy, he should have just poured the stoop/patio before the siding was done. That is typically the best approach, and it allows the proper flashing to be installed to the backwall. Plus, it's a mess to try to remove that siding in the future.




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In this pic, it's more important IMO to have the heights match at the red lines again. If the older existing sidewalk doesn't match that correct height, it should have been addressed when he did his initial site evaluation. The last square could have been replaced to make the height correct.

The green line represents where there should be expansion material placed. Maybe it's there, I just can't see it.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:01 PM   #17
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>>In this pic, all of the dimensions/heights should be equal to within about 1/4".

I believe the dimensions are now 5, 7.5, and 9.

>>he should have just poured the stoop/patio before the siding was done.

That's is what I thought but the contractor told me the opposite.

>>The green line represents where there should be expansion material placed. Maybe it's there, I just can't see it.

No, its not there. I attached 2 more pictures of the patio that were shot soon after the job was "completed". It shows a close-up of where the new concrete meets the foundation and I am presuming that this expansion material should be used there as well (I am located in Rochester, NY - FYI). The other picture shows the entire patio and also shows where the excess concrete was dumped outside the form. They later broke it all up with a jack hammer, but I am still digging cement out of whats left of the lawn.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:51 PM   #18
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That right there (poured tight against the house)is asking for trouble I'm thinkin'.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:52 PM   #19
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A big thanks to everyone who contributed here. I learned a few things and feel better about how I will go forward in dealing with this contractor. Hopefully it won't be too messy. I will reply back once it is all resolved.
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You are correct, there should be some kind of expansion joint material between the house and the patio as well. Frost-protected structures such as a house foundation always need to be separated from a slab on grade with no frost protection.

It doesn't appear there's any control joints in the pictures either. Maybe I just can't see those either?

Best of luck in however you decide to move forward.
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If by "control joints" you mean the grooves that are cut in the patio surface, then yes these were added the day after these pictures were taken.

Also, I should mention that the contractor drilled rebar into the foundation. I have been told that this could present problems if the slab does a thermal shift in the future because it will be attached to the foundation. Something will break.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:21 PM   #22
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If by "control joints" you mean the grooves that are cut in the patio surface, then yes these were added the day after these pictures were taken.

They really should be cut in within 24 hours (or so in cooler temps). Keep your eyes "peeled" for shrinkage cracks in the next few weeks.......

Also, I should mention that the contractor drilled rebar into the foundation. I have been told that this could present problems if the slab does a thermal shift in the future because it will be attached to the foundation. Something will break.
Yeah, that's a big "No-No" as well. All it will do is eventually "egg" the holes out in the block wall.

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Update on this fiasco...

Met with the contractor last night to review the job. Once we pointed out the issues, he agreed that the front steps were a total loss and immediately offered to tear it out and try again, apologizing profusely. My wife was not in the mood to give this guy a second chance, even when he offered to do it for free (i.e. remove the front steps from the bill entirely!) We have had a LOT of construction going on this spring and she has had enough.

So it looks like we are going to live with this for now. I still have concerns about potential liability, however the steps are far better than they were for the past 10 years and nobody fell on them before. I should point out that the front entrance is rarely used.

Thanks again for all of the input. It really helped. I will be back here since I am now moving on the rebuilding my media room and I am putting in a hardware floor myself (something I have never done before).
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