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Old 01-23-2019, 09:09 AM   #1
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Lintel Above Shed Doors Too Short?


Hello Again,

Replacing the roof and doors on a little shed. The r.o. is 40" wide for the doors. The existing door frame is steel and is very rotten on the bottom, so will have to be replaced. I plan to replace the steel frame with wood.

It appears, though, that the lintel above the door does not extend past the door rough opening, so that when I remove the steel door frame, the lintel might fall. If you look closely, you can see that the lintels for the windows on the rear wall extend past the opening and I would expect the door to be the same, but no.

Am I correct to be concerned?
Will the lintel sit there until I get new wooden jack studs in place?

Apologies for the rotated photos - seems to happen every time.
The second photo is merely for your viewing pleasure. The beams on top of the steel posts, in the second photo, are 4.5" thick, by 15" tall and 26' long and appear to be one piece.

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Old 01-23-2019, 09:15 AM   #2
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It kind of looks like the lentil has already failed - looks like there are fractures on both top corners (the one looks like it might have been patched on my screen.)


Personally, I'd brace it while working on replacement. Kind of a PITA to work around, but it's better than having the whole thing collapse while working on it.
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Lintel was too short from the beginning. Do you plan on a narrower door unit?
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:47 AM   #4
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Put 2x4 jack studs inside before you remove the door then put another set out side so you have 7" of jack studs when done. Or just cut it on both sides and replace it with a wood header.
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Thanks for the replies.

chandler48, I was going to use a 36" door, but my jack studs would only be 1" thick. A 32" pre hung door will allow for a 2 jack studs on each side of the 40" opening - I guess that's what I'll do and use a wide casing. The opening is only 80" tall, which is another reason to remove the faulty lintel and replace it with wood, as Nealtw suggests.

And the new wooden header will be attached only to the jack studs and the sill plate which will sit atop it?
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Thanks for the replies.

chandler48, I was going to use a 36" door, but my jack studs would only be 1" thick. A 32" pre hung door will allow for a 2 jack studs on each side of the 40" opening - I guess that's what I'll do and use a wide casing. The opening is only 80" tall, which is another reason to remove the faulty lintel and replace it with wood, as Nealtw suggests.

And the new wooden header will be attached only to the jack studs and the sill plate which will sit atop it?
You only need one jack so you can do a 37" header and a king on each side and you have a 32" door.
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You only need one jack so you can do a 37" header and a king on each side and you have a 32" door.
Okay, that's what I'll do - one king and one jack.

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It looks like a cast-in-place lintel to me, meaning they laid the block on each side first, and the formed and poured the concrete lintel second. There certainly should be rebar in the bottom of the lintel, tied into the adjacent top course of block.

From what I gather though, you're probably still better off getting rid of the concrete lintel and replacing it with a wood header.
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