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Old 02-26-2019, 01:10 PM   #1
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Floor squeaks


I had a house built about 8 months ago and i know the house has to settle and i will hear pops and squeaks but i have some floor squeaks(most of them are along a wall in my hallway) i would like to know the best and most effective way to take care of these before my warranty is over. My question is how are the floor squeaks fixed? I am thinking they are going to just want to shim the floor sheathing from the craw space. I am not a builder or carpenter by an means but using shims from underneath seems like it put push the floor sheathing up not fixing the problem. I would like to be prepared when the time comes around.
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I had a house built about 8 months ago and i know the house has to settle and i will hear pops and squeaks but i have some floor squeaks(most of them are along a wall in my hallway) i would like to know the best and most effective way to take care of these before my warranty is over. My question is how are the floor squeaks fixed? I am thinking they are going to just want to shim the floor sheathing from the craw space. I am not a builder or carpenter by an means but using shims from underneath seems like it put push the floor sheathing up not fixing the problem. I would like to be prepared when the time comes around.
First thing you look for if you have access from below is nails or screws that just missed the joist and are left rubbing when you walk there.


Will you also find heat ducts in that area?
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Check the humidity in your home. If you are below 35%, chances are the squeaks are from the home being too dry. This will resolve itself in the spring/summer. I am experencing the same issue.

That being said, there is a possibility that you have a loose subfloor, which would be covered by your warranty. Best practice is to screw the subfloor into the joists. Is your basement ceilling finished? If not, you examine the subfloor and floor joists for movement while someone walks over the areas to determine whether this is the cause.
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First thing you look for if you have access from below is nails or screws that just missed the joist and are left rubbing when you walk there.


Will you also find heat ducts in that area?

I haven't been down in that area but i am thinking i need to head down there and look to see if the nails missed the joist.


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Hi,

Check the humidity in your home. If you are below 35%, chances are the squeaks are from the home being too dry. This will resolve itself in the spring/summer. I am experencing the same issue.

That being said, there is a possibility that you have a loose subfloor, which would be covered by your warranty. Best practice is to screw the subfloor into the joists. Is your basement ceilling finished? If not, you examine the subfloor and floor joists for movement while someone walks over the areas to determine whether this is the cause.

The areas that are most concerning is an area in the hall way, it seem as if someone ways over this are you can hear it pretty loud but if you turn around and walk over that same area you don't hear anything. It's as if when you walk over that area the floor is pushed down but then stays down for a while and if you walk over it say in about 15-20 min you can hear the loud squeak.


The humidity thing that you mention is interesting, so every winter you are going to have this issue?
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What is the finish of the floor? Carpet, hardwood?


Single level house with trusses and not rafters for roof structure?
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I haven't been down in that area but i am thinking i need to head down there and look to see if the nails missed the joist.





The areas that are most concerning is an area in the hall way, it seem as if someone ways over this are you can hear it pretty loud but if you turn around and walk over that same area you don't hear anything. It's as if when you walk over that area the floor is pushed down but then stays down for a while and if you walk over it say in about 15-20 min you can hear the loud squeak.


The humidity thing that you mention is interesting, so every winter you are going to have this issue?
if it is an isolated issue, meaning you only have one area that is squeaking, then chances are humidity is not the issue. Also, you don't have history on your side. You arent able to determine whether the squeaking goes away in the summer and reappears during winter. So, if it's isolated, you're probably dealing with a rubbing nail and/or loose subfloor. Is the ceilling below finished?
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What is the finish of the floor? Carpet, hardwood?


Single level house with trusses and not rafters for roof structure?

Currently have carpet and single level house with trusses.
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if it is an isolated issue, meaning you only have one area that is squeaking, then chances are humidity is not the issue. Also, you don't have history on your side. You arent able to determine whether the squeaking goes away in the summer and reappears during winter. So, if it's isolated, you're probably dealing with a rubbing nail and/or loose subfloor. Is the ceilling below finished?



sorry, not sure what you mean by ceiling below finished?
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Is the ceiling of the area below the hallway finished or open? If this is the first floor, is there a basement beneath? If so, does the basement have a drywall ceiling or is it still unfinished?

The idea is whether you can get to the structure of the squeaking floor easily from below.
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Currently have carpet and single level house with trusses.
Have you had any cracks in drywall like between walls and ceiling anywhere in the house.?
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Is the ceiling of the area below the hallway finished or open? If this is the first floor, is there a basement beneath? If so, does the basement have a drywall ceiling or is it still unfinished?

The idea is whether you can get to the structure of the squeaking floor easily from below.

oh ok, it's one floor and i have a open crawl space and would be able to get floor joist.
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Have you had any cracks in drywall like between walls and ceiling anywhere in the house.?

Nope no cracks anywhere, I've checked.
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Nope no cracks anywhere, I've checked.
On occasion we can have truss lift in the winter, and sometimes the wall will move with the trusses. This is something to be looked at when nothing else solves the problem. This can happen when they nail the trusses to the interior wall instead of using truss lift clips.
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On occasion we can have truss lift in the winter, and sometimes the wall will move with the trusses. This is something to be looked at when nothing else solves the problem. This can happen when they nail the trusses to the interior wall instead of using truss lift clips.

I will keep that in mind and if that is the problem is it as simple as install them with a nails?


What would be the best way or most effective if it is just the sheathing that has a lose nail?

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I will keep that in mind.


What would be the best way or most effective if it is just the sheathing that has a lose nail?
A length of 2x2 that measures 1 1/2 x 1 1/2
pre drill holes both ways every 6"
apply thick floor glue on two sides place it beside the joist and screw it to the subfloor with 2" screws, then screw it to the joist with 2 1/2 inch screws.
http://www.lepage.ca/en/lepage-produ...-adhesive.html
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