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Old 07-20-2009, 08:19 AM   #1
 
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covering cement veranda with cedar or PT


We have recently built a cool cellar which now gives us a cement covered veranda Approx. 20ft x7ft with 3 stairs.
We live in southern Ontario, Canada

We are looking at covering the cement with cedar or PT.

We have had varying suggestions what is the best practice:

1- Strapping over the cement
or
2- Laying a plastic membrane
or
3-any other suggestions or thoughts of the above
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
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Anything in contact with the ground or with the concrete must be pressure treated. If it is even close (inches), I'd suggest pressure treated. A plastic barrier won't hurt, but doesn't change the need for PT.

Whatever you choose, be sure that adequate air circulation is available under the platform or you'll have all sorts of issues with the longevity and appearance of the structure.
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Thanks thekctermite,
If I glue the plastic membrane do I still need to lay down PT below the cedar. My thinking is the same for the basement floors minus the insulation factor. The membrane is used to keep the wood from direct contact with the cement and the membrane has the spacing for air circulation but is that enough air circulation I believe the gaps are about 1/4".

How much circulation is necessary?
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The plastic membrane doesn't negate the need for pressure treated wood if the wood is in contact with the concrete. The membrane could very possibly allow moisture to condense on the top side, not to mention the fact that moisture will collect on it from rain and snow.

The more air the better. Simply spacing the deck boards 1/8" will make a big difference in getting air in and out of the space, but some space under the joists is definitely desirable.
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Thanks thekctermite,

I will have to revisit this idea.
Sounds like I am creating more work and maintenance for me, not to mention damaging the new cement.
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Would pavers be a decent option over the existing concrete???
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howzabout just a nice acid-stain & diamond-saw'd grout lines ? ? ?
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So, I head over to the Rona building centre to look at the pavers and acid stain idea and what do I get introduced to is yet another idea.
Rustoleum Stoneeffects, which is basically a 3 stage stone finish that you rolled on, trowel on and then rolled on. Too many options, but better to have too many than not enough.

I will just have to have to think about it a bit more.
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i'll guess that's a water-bas'd epoxy system,,, 'cept for the inexperienced impress'd newbies, no pro'd ever use epoxy for exterior,,, its meant to replicate 'chattahoochee' but getws reinvented every generation it seems.
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