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Old 08-25-2016, 07:48 AM   #1
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Hi All,

Stairs... i would like my basement stair railing to look like the second picture (the railing will be shorter because my distance is shorter)

I have framed the knee wall beside the stringers and have fastened it to the stringer.

Once good enough, i will bolt it to the ground. BUT, before that. do i need to have 2 top plates? am i good with one?

the area in which i am going to place the newel post (currently void), i am going to use 2 pieces of 2x4s to close off that part of the frame. secure the newel post into the stringer and knee wall.

so before i drywall that section, i just want to make sure that i am okay with 1 piece of wood as my top plate and that my approach is sound

Thank you.

p.s. this framed section (bolted into the stringer) is very sturdy.
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I think you should have anchored the knee wall to a full stud.

I also think you should have brought the bottom of your top plate all the way to the stringer edge and it should have a "stud" at the edge. In the "inspiration" picture the post is in front of the steps. Here is what I am talking about:

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Looks fine to me. Just. Did similar last week. I DID have the top plate attached to a full height stud.....but only because I wanted to end the tall will flush with the vertical cut on the stair carriage. Otherwise wouldn't have bothered. Remember that you will likely have a piece on one bye something sitting flat on the top plate making the finished surface to attach your balusters to. Ron
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so to confirm, do i need two diagonal pieces are wood?

i see the full stud - i can work that in

as for the end of the stringer, yes, agree, i need to build that. i may simple rebuild the entire thing. who knows.

just want to know if what i have works, or NO.
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just want to know if what i have works, or NO.
Define works? Can you attach drywall to it? I don't see why not just not sure how you will finish the end of the knee wall?
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ok, i will rebuild it
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I always added a header waste piece, sitting on the mud sill (like a header) and between the last and next stud to bolt the post to. Laying the top plate (single is fine) on the tread nosing and marking/cutting to long (wild) end of all studs gives room for side trim on the bottom sill of finish rake piece.

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I have always built my stairs with this 2x4 mud sill at the bottom. to me it makes sense but i cant really remember if its required by code and i am to lazy to look it up right now.

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ok, i will rebuild it
Not sure who said to rebuild. It is fine as it is.....given that it appears that what is there has been ther for a while...and you are onlyd reworking the open side with a knee wall. True you need to add one more stud to ithe bottom end.....which is easily done....stand a two bye up down the, mark the angle,
Cut it and nail it in.....giving you a flush vertical surface at the bottom to butt your Newell post to. And the second diagonal piece would simply be a finish board that would provide a nice surface for the balusters to attach to....you can see it as the brown thing in your first picture. Ron

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