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Old 04-13-2010, 12:34 PM   #1
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Yard light I want to turn out


I have a yard light supplied by my POCO and I would like to be able to turn off on the nights I have guests; not trying to keep them from finding us but it shines in the guest room window. Blinds help some but it still is light in the room. This light is connected directly to the incoming service loop and I have no access to the wiring. It is billed to me at a flat $6.50 per month as it is not connected thru my electric meter.

I was wondering if I installed a weather proof switch on the pole and ran PVC conduit and THWN wiring (bk, wh, gn) up near the POCO wiring and installed a weather head, would they connect the switch up for me? There is an existing #6 bare aluminum wire that is connected to the neutral at the top of the pole and is stapled down the side of the pole and connected to a ground wire. The pole belong to the POCO. Are there any code violations in doing this. The only issue I see is there is really no ground on the pole, just a hot and a neutral.
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:46 PM   #2
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I have one in my backyard - I didn't like having to pay for a light that just interfered with my telescope-gazing and sleep so I just had them come and disconnect it and relocate it to a different pole (next to my house - just on the other side)

It wouldn't hurt to ask them if they will install a switch for you, afterall, you're paying 72$ a year for the darn annoyance.
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The light belongs to the poco and you will not be able to switch it.
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After 10 years at $78/yr, if PoCo invests their[your!] money at 7%/yr, they have made $500 for your light.

http://www.vertex42.com/ExcelArticle...10&A=%24+22.78

How much will it cost you to put in a light that you can control, lump sum?
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After 10 years at $78/yr, if PoCo invests their[your!] money at 7%/yr, they have made $500 for your light.


How much will it cost you to put in a light that you can control, lump sum?
The thought of digging a trench over 100 feet from the house is not appealing. But you are right I could hire somebody to dig the trench and come out money ahead.
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You could probably rent a trencher for $50 or so...
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Only your POCO can answer the question of what they will or will not do



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You could probably rent a trencher for $50 or so...

Around here a trencher that will do 24" is $120. I could hire an undocumented worker for less. I would hire a documented one but none of them would do it.
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It's $1153.
My bad.
Wrong formula.
http://www.money-zine.com/Calculator...ty-Calculator/

I should have realized that $78/yr for 10 years with no interest is $780 so it has to be more than this value.

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YOU CANNOT CONTROL THIS LIGHT! Period!

Tell them to remove it and install your own on your own pole. This is your ONLY option here.
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I do know of one case where a person ran a C-9 bulb up to the sensor
When his Christmas display was running (animated) he turned that C-9 on
That basically shut off the street light



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Around here a trencher that will do 24" is $120. I could hire an undocumented worker for less. I would hire a documented one but none of them would do it.
Maybe not for what you're willing to pay.
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YOU CANNOT CONTROL THIS LIGHT! Period!

Tell them to remove it and install your own on your own pole. This is your ONLY option here.
There is a big difference between a yard light and a municipal security light, often placed on public grounds. Is this pole on your private property?

In Oklahoma, POCO "controlled" lights supplied for individual houses are very commonly installed with switches, especially those POCO's which are rural cooperatives. It is a standard installation. Light is not operated through the meter, but a monthly fee is charged.

I would recommend a call to the power company before spending any money.

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Around here the POCO has several type of lights they will provide and maintain. They are POCO property installed and mounted on POCO property.
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Around here the POCO has several type of lights they will provide and maintain. They are POCO property installed and mounted on POCO property.
This light and pole are definitely on my property but I do realize the light and pole are owned and maintained my the POCO. I just rent it month to month.
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