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Old 10-30-2016, 02:12 PM   #1
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Wiring help for new ceiling fan


I installed a new ceiling fan/light in a bedroom and I want it to be controlled by the light switch (single gang), but for some reason the light and fan are always on right now, regardless of whether the switch is on or off. There is 14/3 going from the switch to the light/fan (red and black connected to switch), and 14/3 going from the light/fan to the switched receptacles. Here is how I currently have the light/fan wired:

Black from switch > Black from fan > Black to receptacles
Red from switch > Blue from light > Red to receptacles
White from switch (not connected to switch) > White from fan/light > White to receptacles
Bare from switch > Green from light/fan > Bare to receptacles

I also tried connected the Blue light wire to the black wires, which left just the two red wires connected together, but that had the same result.

Can anyone see where I went wrong?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-30-2016, 03:04 PM   #2
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Re: Wiring help for new ceiling fan


Do you have some type of a meter to determine live energized lines?

Either the red or the black from the receptacles is likely live (120vac) continuous. I suspect it's the black.

If its the black:

LIGHT/FAN BOX:
Black from receptacle's 14/3 > Black of wall switch's 14/3
Red of wall switch's 14/3 > Black @ Blue from light/fan > Red of receptacle's 14/3
White of receptacle's 14/3 > White of light/fan > White of 14/3 to wall switch's 14/3

WALL SWITCH's BOX:
Black on topmost terminal of manual wall switch
Red on lowermost terminal of manual wall switch
White is not used (future neutral, if req'd)


NOTE: ">" = connection
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Re: Wiring help for new ceiling fan


Thank you for your response! I used my multimeter to check the receptacles, and both the top and bottom are live all the time, but I imagine this is because I haven't broken off the tab on the new receptacles. My plan is to keep all the receptacles always live now, and the switch will only control the light/fan.

I followed the layout you suggested and unfortunately the light/fan is still always on. I even tried reversing it (connecting the black & blue from the light/fan to the other two blacks), but still the same result. I feel like this should be so simple, so I'm sure I'm just missing something...
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Re: Wiring help for new ceiling fan


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Do you have some type of a meter to determine live energized lines?

Either the red or the black from the receptacles is likely live (120vac) continuous. I suspect it's the black.

If its the black:

LIGHT/FAN BOX:
Black from receptacle's 14/3 > Black of wall switch's 14/3
Red of wall switch's 14/3 > Black @ Blue from light/fan > Red of receptacle's 14/3
White of receptacle's 14/3 > White of light/fan > White of 14/3 to wall switch's 14/3

WALL SWITCH's BOX:
Black on topmost terminal of manual wall switch
Red on lowermost terminal of manual wall switch
White is not used (future neutral, if req'd)


NOTE: ">" = connection
The highlighted leg seems superfluous - ok to connect it at the light but cap it at the receptacle end. Assuming power comes in at the receptacle and goes out via black and white, this circuit described by Power- should work.
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Re: Wiring help for new ceiling fan


lenaitch has a good point.

kcoons83 = As you have a voltmeter, please do the following:

Open ALL your splices in the wall switch box AND the ceiling's fan/light box. Turn power back on. Go check which wire is 120vac hot-to-ground. Then check the hot wire to it's white. Come back here sometime and tell us. One of us will be able to help you.....after all your right in saying "I feel like this should be so simple, so I'm sure I'm just missing something..."
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