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12-30-2009, 03:36 PM   #1

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## Wet Bar Circuit question

Happy New Year to everyone. I'm spending my vacation framing out and hopefully running wiring for my wetbar (9' x 11') which will include an L-shaped counter top over cabinets and bar top counter, 5-6 recepts, an under counter refrigerator, 5 pendant lights, and 5-6 recessed lights.

My question is about circuitry. My thought is to put everything on one 20 amp GFI circuit, with recepts first in the run (including a recept for a plug in under-counter refrigerator) and then the lights.

Is that too much load on one 20 amp circuit. Should I run a dedicated refrigerator circuit? Do I need the 5-6 recepts split between two circuits?

Hoping to finish wiring by the weekend so any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 12-30-2009, 04:04 PM #2 Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South of Boston, MA Posts: 17,248 Rewards Points: 2,000 What wattage bulbs will you be using ? What is the power draw of the fridge ? What other items will be powered off these outlets ? TV, blender, microwave ? I'm setting my bar up with (2) dedicated 20a circuits Lights will be seperate I'll actually have a full size stove behind the bar It will be setup as a complete 2nd kitchen, small fridge tho

 12-30-2009, 04:28 PM #3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Rewards Points: 10 40-60 amp bulbs, not sure on the amps for the frig (but I want to play it safe), probable microwave and blenders on the recepts. Your thoughts/suggestions?

 12-30-2009, 04:40 PM #4 Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South of Boston, MA Posts: 17,248 Rewards Points: 2,000 Well 11 lights at 60a = 660w = 5.5a A small dorm fridge takes about 3.5 a I think So that is 9a - almost 1/2 the circuit I took power for my lights off an exisiting light circuit that was under-utilized We will have a microwave out there Have a party - 1 or 2 blenders running...some crock pots for meatballs etc I would run (2) 20a circuits & see if there is a lighting circuit you can tie into for the lights I would also consider CFL's I'm using (4) 13w CFL floods in 6" cans over most of the general bar area ~19'x20' Then (4) 13w 4" cfl cans over the bar - every ~2 = ~10' bar I will also have acces to a 3rd circuit behind the bar that will be shared with an outlet by the sub around the corner Then in the general bar are will be 2 more 20a circuits The other 1/2 of the great room 17'x24' will have 2-3 more 20a circuits So take into account that party you may have with a bunch of stuff running
 12-30-2009, 04:45 PM #5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Rewards Points: 10 If I put the refrig on a recept circuit, does it have to be at any certain point in the recepts (i.e. can it be at the end of a GFI recept run?)
 12-30-2009, 05:03 PM #6 Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South of Boston, MA Posts: 17,248 Rewards Points: 2,000 The fridge can be anywhere on the circuit I'm not sure where ours will end up
 12-30-2009, 09:15 PM #7 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Rewards Points: 10 Thanks Scuba...greatly appreciate it.
 12-30-2009, 09:48 PM #8 " Euro " electrician     Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WI & France { in France for now } Posts: 5,369 Rewards Points: 2,000 Just give you a head up wet bar rules is very simuar to Kitchen circuits so you will need minuim of 2 circuits. Everything under wetbar must be on GFCI. That including the fridge under the bar. If the luminaires are above the wetbar like ceiling cans then no you do not need GFCI at all.{ but strongly recomend a dimmer to turn down the lights to suit your mood unless you got CFL make sure they are dimmable } Any other question just holler one of us will steer ya right way. Merci,Marc
12-31-2009, 08:11 AM   #9

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 Originally Posted by frenchelectrican Just give you a head up wet bar rules is very simuar to Kitchen circuits so you will need minuim of 2 circuits. Everything under wetbar must be on GFCI. That including the fridge under the bar. If the luminaires are above the wetbar like ceiling cans then no you do not need GFCI at all.{ but strongly recomend a dimmer to turn down the lights to suit your mood unless you got CFL make sure they are dimmable } Any other question just holler one of us will steer ya right way. Merci,Marc
Thanks Marc. I think I'll do 2 recept circuits, one of which will have the refrig recept on it...both circuits GFI.

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