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Old 05-01-2019, 02:55 PM   #31
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Re: Are twist connectors safe to use for light fixture wiring?


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Just to be clear, if splices with wire nuts are in an accessible junction box it would pass code? Does the junction box need to be compliant in any special way, fire rated? Are the blue boxes- single, double, triple gang, etc. available at HD, Lowes compliant as junction boxes?
All the "blue boxes" are junction boxes. Just not the low voltage ones. It has to be enclosed, either plastic or metal. I'm not sure but the tape over the wire nuts might be against code...I know that certainly isn't recommended practice.
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All the "blue boxes" are junction boxes. Just not the low voltage ones. It has to be enclosed, either plastic or metal. I'm not sure but the tape over the wire nuts might be against code...I know that certainly isn't recommended practice.
It is not against code nor is it required or even recommended. However, it is a good sign of a DIY or homeowner work. Or possibly an older generation EC work where that had to solder then wrap with tape before wire nuts came into common usage.

If it is something you want to do to make you feel safer, then by all means go ahead and do it. Just make sure you don't overload your blue plastic or metal boxes.
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Just to be clear, if splices with wire nuts are in an accessible junction box it would pass code? Does the junction box need to be compliant in any special way, fire rated? Are the blue boxes- single, double, triple gang, etc. available at HD, Lowes compliant as junction boxes?
As other said, any box other than a special low-voltage one (often orange, often with big holes or no back) is fine. Need to make sure the boxes are big enough for the number of wires going in each of them (according to code requirements for box fill - not just that you can physically cram them all in there). The hard part about putting these spices in boxes would be getting enough slack to make it work. I'd use the legal buried splice kits, but that's just me.
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A good rule of thumb to use when determining the amount of wires that can go in a box or in a wire nut is to NUT use a rule of thumb.

There are charts that are easy to find that should be used

The only rule of thumb that should be used is that bigger is better. Don't buy cheap boxes.

Besides, this may happen to use if you use the rule of thumb too much.
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A good rule of thumb to use when determining the amount of wires that can go in a box or in a wire nut is to NUT use a rule of thumb.

There are charts that are easy to find that should be used

The only rule of thumb that should be used is that bigger is better. Don't buy cheap boxes.

Besides, this may happen to use if you use the rule of thumb too much.
BOX FILL CHARTS: I like the electricians bible (atheist myself) APP- google play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...toolsNew&hl=en

There is a free version and you can calculate box fill0 amongst many,many other things
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A good rule of thumb to use when determining the amount of wires that can go in a box or in a wire nut is to NUT use a rule of thumb.
Yep! The rule of thumb is to look it up.
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Would it be worth redoing everything by opening up the floors upstairs and using a junction box? (will cost a good bit more obviously)
Don't be cheap. Being cheap is very expensive as I'm sure you're finding out with the money already wasted on this cut rate "electrician".
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Oh my goodness. Please, do your duty and report that guy so that he never does any electrical work again. Call your local permitting office and ask them what to do.

EXACTLY! As a licensed electrician, I am tired of having to compete with incompetent hacks like this. Cheap work is cheap for a reason.
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