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Old 04-30-2010, 10:11 AM   #1
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Switch to switch and outlet


Hey guys,

Looking to swap out a current switch that works a kitchen light for a switch and an outlet combo unit..... I have purchased this unit here: http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-...atalogId=10053

Now in the pic below - these are the wires I have:

Top left: nothing
Top Right: Red
Bottom Right: Black
Bottom left: white

Now how do I get my new outlet/switch installed???
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Is this a 3-way switch (does another switch also control the same light?) Do you have any wires in the back of the box, or just those 3?

If you only have those 3 wires, you probably cannot put an outlet there because you do not have a neutral wire. The switch is being used in a switch loop.
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yes there actually is anothe switch but its current disconencted as my fridge ended up going in front of it (long story) - so those wires are just tied off and a cap is where the switch used to be....
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yes there actually is anothe switch but its current disconencted as my fridge ended up going in front of it (long story) - so those wires are just tied off and a cap is where the switch used to be....
How many and what color wires are capped?

also looking at the link, you can not use the combo switch.
You need a 3 way switch and a gfci, and I'm not sure they are made.
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How many and what color wires are capped?

also looking at the link, you can not use the combo switch.
You need a 3 way switch and a gfci, and I'm not sure they are made.

Hmm thats a good question - honestly I dont know, I'll move the fridge tonight and take a looksee...
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Is this in a kitchen? You can't do it to code if it is, even if you have the wires. Small appliance circuits must be 20 amp and no lights are permitted to be on them.
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Is this in a kitchen? You can't do it to code if it is, even if you have the wires. Small appliance circuits must be 20 amp and no lights are permitted to be on them.
Why would you consider this a small appliance circuit?
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Why would you consider this a small appliance circuit?
Because he mentioned the other end is behind the fridge. The fridge is usually in the kitchen.
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Because he mentioned the other end is behind the fridge. The fridge is usually in the kitchen.
He said the other three-way switch was behind the fridge. Not all kitchen circuits are small appliance circuits.
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If you don't want to have the 3 way function, you could rewire the circuitry in such a manner, to allow the use of the combo switch that you have selected.
It may require removing the switch from the box behind the refrigerator and making the changes there.
Or its possible that the changes would be made in the light outlet box!
It depends where the power is fed to. Sometimes it goes to a switch box, in other cases it will go directly to the light!
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