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Old 05-10-2018, 11:40 PM   #1
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This Shouldn't Be Hard - Pole Light


The concept is very simple - mount a dusk to dawn pole light with an extension arm. Okay, couple of lags and you're done...however I can find almost nothing on how to wire these things up with the arm. I see if you mount them flush on a pole there's a 1/2 ko for conduit but how do you adapt the mounting pole to some kind of conduit? I did some searching and mostly found utility pole installs where the wires just come out and go to the top of the transformer. I even saw one install document show just showing liquid tight conduit up the arm and then making a shepherds hook but that was with the power at the top of the pole not at the bottom. Am I just overthinking how one of these should be installed?
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Can you post a picture or link on what you are trying to mount? Is the arm totally enclosed from the mounting point on the pole to the light fixture? Is it a factory unit?
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I can find almost nothing on how to wire these things up with the arm.
Am I just overthinking how one of these should be installed?
Getting the (switched) power to the fixture is always the tricky part.

How about if you post a few pictures of what you want?
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https://www.amazon.com/LED-Dusk-Dawn.../dp/B01BUNQS2O


https://www.amazon.com/TORCHSTAR-Pho...8HW54K3JZ2R4KN

Okay, not necessarily the models I'll be putting in but decent pictures in the links. So you can see in both the 1/2 ko for easy conduit but once it has the arm on it (first link) what should that be tied into? Thanks for the help!

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... what should that be tied into?
I think you're holding the wrong end of the stick.
Where is the POWER for this (or ANY) fixture coming from?

Are you planning to install conduit on the outside of your house?
Run NM in the wall and out... maybe down from the attic?
Will there be switching somewhere?
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I think you're holding the wrong end of the stick.
Where is the POWER for this (or ANY) fixture coming from?

Are you planning to install conduit on the outside of your house?
Run NM in the wall and out... maybe down from the attic?
Will there be switching somewhere?
Power is coming from a gfci outlet mounted on the pole already. So the plan was to run liquid tight from the box and then attach it. THHN/THWN inside of the liquid tight. It's not the getting power to the point I'm having problems with it's that I can see when you flush mount the fixture the 1/2 ko is accessible and that's how you connect it. But when the arm gets mounted onto it you now cover that ko and only have the arm to run the wiring through. Reading various reviews the consistency of arm diameters is not great so adapting to a standard conduit could be a challenge. So maybe I'm missing something really simple but shoving the liquid tight up the arm just doesn't seem like the best practice.
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On the units I've seen, the mounting portion of the fixture allows you to run the wires either out the KO, or down through the tube the light is attached to. So in the pic you linked to, the wiring could either go out the KO or through the bent pipe. You'd want to run it through the bent pipe. Is your pole hollow? If so, then you probably want to run down through it and into the back of the receptacle box. Otherwise you need conduit up the side of the pole.
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Power is coming from a gfci outlet mounted on the pole already.
Gotcha. You have an actual pole for your pole light.

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So maybe I'm missing something really simple but shoving the liquid tight up the arm just doesn't seem like the best practice.
Sealtite. That's what you'll use from the add'l box you'll mount up high.
Exposed right into the fixture j-box.

Conduit on the pole surface down to the GFi Box. Pigtail the line side.
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Gotcha. You have an actual pole for your pole light.


Sealtite. That's what you'll use from the add'l box you'll mount up high.
Exposed right into the fixture j-box.

Conduit on the pole surface down to the GFi Box. Pigtail the line side.
Thanks, I'm going to have to head over to the store and see what these poles fit into. I really don't want to mount a 6x6 j box at the top of the pole. I am finding a few lights that the pole screws in like a flushmount so then the box on the light would still be accessible and then I would only have to run the liquid tight up the pole. Might be the easier option to go with that.
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On the units I've seen, the mounting portion of the fixture allows you to run the wires either out the KO, or down through the tube the light is attached to. So in the pic you linked to, the wiring could either go out the KO or through the bent pipe. You'd want to run it through the bent pipe. Is your pole hollow? If so, then you probably want to run down through it and into the back of the receptacle box. Otherwise you need conduit up the side of the pole.
Thanks. From the pictures I'm seeing it looks like once the arm gets inserted the ko is blocked. Running the wires down the tube to the box just seems so sloppy so I wanted it in conduit to clean it up but it seems like the options are limited on that. Going to check out a few models in store and see what they have.
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Yup, so this is so simple but I couldn't find good pictures of it. Went to the store and found one and right at the end of the arm there is a third knockout. I was visualizing the knockout on the bottom that once the arm is inserted it get blocked so you could only force the liquid tight up the arm and then just hope it didn't fall out. Thanks for the help and I'll go sit in the corner for a few on this one...
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