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Old 03-31-2019, 01:21 PM   #1
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Retrofitting Recessed Light with LEDs Question


We are updating all the recessed lights in the house with LEDs. We removed most of the parts for one of the lights so far as shown here: https://imgur.com/zaYA1pE

Next, there is still something left behind, it looks like housing for the previous bulbs? As shown here: https://imgur.com/oamSbVw

My question is does the housing in the image above need to be removed as well before we retrofit the LEDs?

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2 ways to go.

Install a A19 LED lamp and use existing trim.

Install a LED retrofit trim that screws into existing socket.

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2 ways to go.
Install a LED retrofit trim that screws into existing socket.
Is this an example of what you are talking about? https://www.lightup.com/led-5to-6-in...YaAl9rEALw_wcB
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Is this an example of what you are talking about? https://www.lightup.com/led-5to-6-in...YaAl9rEALw_wcB
Yes that is a retrofit trim. BTW, that is a great price if the quality is good.

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That's a Lightolier recessed housing. Lightolier does not make a retrofit fit for that model. You removed some of the trim, the glass and outer ring. The rest of the trim is what you are seeing in the ceiling. You can remove the rest of the trim if you want to but I would not do that.

Just a note, if you remove the rest of the trim, you'll see the floor joists and junction box for the light fixture. To remove it, spin the trim left or right and it will be released from the tension springs. Then compress the two tabs on the trim near the socket. To re-install, find the three or four tension springs on the housing and turn them toward the center of the opening. Re-attached the socket and push the trim straight up without spinning it.

I would try Home Depot. Look at their 6" Halo LED retrofit with adjustable color. See if you can get one to fit. I've had good luck with these trims and you'll like the ability to adjust color from 2700K to 5,000K. These are also compatible with a wide variety of dimmers. HERE"S A LINK
2700K looks good on most furniture, 4,000K looks good on white cabinets.

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I likewise recommend keeping the existing housing and trims, just use the same style bulb in LED. Why make it complicated at 6 times the cost?
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I likewise recommend keeping the existing housing and trims, just use the same style bulb in LED. Why make it complicated at 6 times the cost?

To clarify, are you saying keep all of the existing housing that I showed in the original post, and just get a LED A19 bulb and screw that in? Don't get a halo retro refit kit?
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To clarify, are you saying keep all of the existing housing that I showed in the original post, and just get a LED A19 bulb and screw that in? Don't get a halo retro refit kit?
That's an option. I was trying to get a more modern look by using a step baffle.
Led come dimmable and non-dimmable.
Learn the color difference in degrees Kelvin. If you're trying to match the old incandescent, try a 2700K and see if you like that color.
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I understand wanting a new look, so I would possibly buy new standard bulb trims and get LED bulbs. I like to have flexibility on the bulbs both coverage and color Kelvin.
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I likewise recommend keeping the existing housing and trims, just use the same style bulb in LED. Why make it complicated at 6 times the cost?

Besides saving money, when one lamp dies, maybe 5 years from now, you simply replace it with another A19 bulb. Rather than trying to find the closest looking model for the retrofit kit that they don't make anymore.
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I understand wanting a new look, so I would possibly buy new standard bulb trims and get LED bulbs. I like to have flexibility on the bulbs both coverage and color Kelvin.
I know the recessed light is Lightolier, it's on the label of the trim in your photo.
There's a good chance that the housing in the ceiling is a Lightolier 1102-P1. They've made them for decades and are still available. To find out, remove the trim as I described in an earlier post. Measure the ceiling opening, it should be 6 13/16". Also measure the "Cup" with the lamp socket. Take photos and post them. Try to photo the housing from up in ceiling.

If it is 1102-P1, there are a wide variety of trims available. Most will accept a LED lamp.
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