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Old 01-01-2010, 10:51 AM   #1
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Some quick questions

1) Code requires junction boxes to be accessable, but isn't the wireing box on a can light technically a junction box? how does code deal with this?

2) what are you opinnions on the push in wire connectors they use now in the can light wire box? Any bad feelings on them? After you have them all wired up should you tape them up to help keep the wires in place? or do they do a good job like a wire nut usually does?
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The can is removeable/moveable & the wiring is accessible thru the hole

There has been some positive feedback about the new push in connectors
I have used some...they seem pretty tight
Of course the thermal expansion +/- over the years is the issue



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The can is removeable/moveable & the wiring is accessible thru the hole

There has been some positive feedback about the new push in connectors
I have used some...they seem pretty tight
Of course the thermal expansion +/- over the years is the issue

can you remove wires from them if you made a mistake or is it pretty much done once it is in?

and I forgot the inside of the can comes out! I don't know why I wasn't thinking about that...
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I do not recall seeing any way of releasing the wire once inserted
I could be wrong



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Guess my last question is what is good for a drop cieling? IC or Non-IC? does it really matter in a drop cieling that has no insulation around it? and why is IC cheaper then non-ic? (at least around me at lowes it is)
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Guess my last question is what is good for a drop cieling? IC or Non-IC? does it really matter in a drop cieling that has no insulation around it? and why is IC cheaper then non-ic? (at least around me at lowes it is)

Normally in drop ceiling you can use the non IC cans unless your local code required IC cans and with IC cans they are kinda little restricted with wattage on the can luminaire so look at the label on the can it will tell you the wattage plus the type of trim it willbe using.

IC can vs Non IC cans all it depending on market demand and it more common to get IC can than non IC cans unless your code required airtite cans then you have to use the airtite cans they will prevent airflowage thru the cans to keep the room warm or cool without any air going thru up the attic or loft space.

But for myself I useally get the cans thru the electrical supply centre due I go thru a bunch of them { the last resdentail I work on it have over 45 cans }

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Non-IC I think may be lighter then IC rated
Without insulation you can use either
I buy the 6" recessed 6 paks w/trim of IC rated for $50 at HD



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I buy the 6" recessed 6 paks w/trim of IC rated for $50 at HD
Not too bad a price Dave.,

but the biggest killer is the trim that will varies a bit.

I useally buy the can and trim seperated due some location will reqired diffrent trims.

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Yes, some may need different trim, but the majority the trim will work
Buying (6) seperate without trim actually costs more...so I buy the 6-paks
In some cases I will buy fancy trim later on



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