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Old 02-10-2010, 04:40 PM   #16
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Pulling a meter is not a crime as far as I know
Electricians do it all the time & in many areas its perfectly normal
Arc Flash is the biggest problem
As well as possibly touching the unfused service feed

Stealing power IS a crime

Again...what Federal Fraud charges
You continue to post this without ANY backup whatsover
Oh, I'll freely admit that I do NOT know what are the laws in regards to this. I stated that I was repeating something I read somewhere, and I'm 100% sure that what I'm saying would not put any DIYer at any risk.

I also said that I was talking about home-owners. I'm sure the laws and rules are different for "qualified personel" such as a licencesed electrician.


Or am I completely wrong and it IS legal for a home-owner to pull their own meter? (But offically NOT recomended by this forum in general)?
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Pulling a meter is not a crime as far as I know
Electricians do it all the time & in many areas its perfectly normal
Arc Flash is the biggest problem
As well as possibly touching the unfused service feed

Stealing power IS a crime

Again...what Federal Fraud charges
You continue to post this without ANY backup whatsover
In NYC it's done routinely by licensed electricians, when the utility is too busy to come on the premises to open the meter. The electrician "Pops" the seal and records the number (they do have numbers) and nothing is made of it!
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:01 PM   #18
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Or am I completely wrong and it IS legal for a home-owner to pull their own meter? (But offically NOT recomended by this forum in general)?
Without permission YES, it IS illegal. NO, I am not looking it up for anyone.

I have heard of some areas absurdly allowing DIYer and HO's to pull meters once the POCO was notified. This is JOKE IMO.
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Without permission YES, it IS illegal. NO, I am not looking it up for anyone.

I have heard of some areas absurdly allowing DIYer and HO's to pull meters once the POCO was notified. This is JOKE IMO.
You're right. Because there are two serious issues involved; a) Safety; b) Trust; A non-professional can cause untold damage by grounding out a utility-side wire that could burn down a house, since there are no household-size fuses or breakers to stop the fault current.: also, if someone is not registered with the power co. and not licensed by a Government agency, there is no accountability if there occurs theft of service.!
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Oh, I'll freely admit that I do NOT know what are the laws in regards to this. I stated that I was repeating something I read somewhere
Please do not repeat what you "heard" as LAW
This is how myths are continued
We try not to post what someones brothers uncles friends cousin might have heard from his sisters aunts friend



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I'm not going to claim that you are wrong about this... but can you site a code reference that indicates this?
Code requires you to use Panels per Mfg instructions
And every Mfg Spec I have seen has a Max rating:

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100 amperes maximum branch circuit breaker in load centers with 125 A maximum mains rating.
You can have a 200a panel off of a 100a panel & feed it with say a 50a maybe up to a 90a breaker



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Please do not repeat what you "heard" as LAW
This is how myths are continued
We try not to post what someones brothers uncles friends cousin might have heard from his sisters aunts friend
Well, I was absolutly wrong... it WAS here in DIY Chatroom where it was claimed that pulling a meter was a federal crime. Here's the link, and no one there was asked to sight a reference or challenged.
http://www.diychatroom.com/f18/power-meter-pull-18571/

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How does this help anyone other than the OP?
What, are you going to tell him that can't be posted here?
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Yes, if you are into breaking the law and risking your life.
And YES, I AM serious!

Call the POCO and they will come out and do it for you.
I've done it a few times. But I prefer the power Co. techs do it. And they (the utility) require installing BYPASS meter boxes on most upgrades, to protect their employees.!
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yes it is possible i have done it countless times, but then again im an electrician, i know the risks safety wise. You would be not only exposing live cables you run the risk of having an arc flash if the panel is not shut off
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i just meant if hes serious about doing the job, i would walk him through it step by step and possibly give him my phone number is case he ran into a jam in the middle of the job



hoodook who were you talking to??
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i just meant if hes serious about doing the job, i would walk him through it step by step and possibly give him my phone number is case he ran into a jam in the middle of the job
The point of forums like these is so an online community benefits from people's knowledge and experience. There is also safety in numbers, meaning that if someone gives questionable advice, there will be contradictory opinions to take into consideration. Trying to circumvent that so you can give advice to someone is irresponsible.
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hoodook who were you talking to??
I had repeated a claim I had seen that removal of a meter was a federal crime. I was asked to sight a source. Initially I couldn't. I was fussed at for making a false claim and got a little too angry. When I got home, I found my source in my home computer's history. Turns out to be a post from this forum from about 2 years ago.

Since then, the moderator has removed both false claims and some posts where I was inappropraitely expressed myself.

It's now all old business... nothing to see... just move along.
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The point of forums like these is so an online community benefits from people's knowledge and experience. There is also safety in numbers, meaning that if someone gives questionable advice, there will be contradictory opinions to take into consideration. Trying to circumvent that so you can give advice to someone is irresponsible.

i dont talk to people who use the word circumvent
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