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Old 04-23-2010, 03:59 PM   #16
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Don't forget one for the towel warming rack
I don't think that after you walk out of a HOT shower you care very much about the towel being warmed by the rack!!
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:38 PM   #17
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I take cool showers in the summer, so a nice warm towel is nice
Plus a towel warmer helps dry the towel off faster
We don't have heat in that bathroom, so the 600w towel heater will keep the room warm



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Old 04-24-2010, 07:37 AM   #18
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I don't think that after you walk out of a HOT shower you care very much about the towel being warmed by the rack!!

When the bathroom's cold in the winter you care. I spent some time in Finland/Sweden and they run the hot water through a towel warmer before it gets to the shower. Mine just plugs in. Who's do you think is more economical. If I ever redo my bath I will use the hot water.
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News to me - there's a minimum requirement for outlets? Someone please inform Arkansas. I've actually lived in 3 homes that had none - I've had to install them either in with the lighting or in with a switch.

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News to me - there's a minimum requirement for outlets? Someone please inform Arkansas. I've actually lived in 3 homes that had none - I've had to install them either in with the lighting or in with a switch.

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Maybe the inspector/s didn't get to those locations, yet!!
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Double bowl vanities require either one recep between the bowls or two receps, one to serve each bowl.


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Do you have a code reference that states something different ?



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I don't have documentation. I know what is enforced in Indiana and Michigan where I work, and the fact a receptacle must be within 3' of the outside edge of the bowl.
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art.210.8(a)(1)
Art. 445.20
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art.210.8(a)(1)
Art. 445.20
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210.8(a)(1) indicates GFCI protection required, I don't think anyone will argue that point

Article 445 is for Generators

I do not see a 445.20



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My book has no 445.20.
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assakly. check your N.E.C. 2008 index!
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assakly. check your N.E.C. 2008 index!
I don't see anything in the index for bathrooms that references 445.20
I guess I'm just wondering what you disagree with ?
That a 2nd outlet is needed...or placement....or ?



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I'm not a sparky, but that is really easy to find. You need one within 3' of each sink bowl, unless it is within 3' of both bowls: "It should be noted that while 210.52(D) only requires one 15A or 20A, 125V receptacle within 3 ft of each sink in the bathroom, the requirement in 210.8(A)(1), which calls GFCI protection of receptacles in dwelling unit bathrooms, would apply to all 15A and 20A, 125V receptacles in a dwelling unit bathroom, and GFCI protection must be provided for any such receptacle installed there. When combined with the rule of 406.11, any 15A or 20A, 125V-rated receptacle installed in a dwelling unit bathroom would have to be GFCI protected and be a listed tamper-resistant receptacle." From: http://ecmweb.com/nec/whats_wrong_he...10/index1.html

And: http://books.google.com/books?id=m6R...ticles&f=false

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