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Old 08-16-2009, 04:11 PM   #1
 
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Outlet wiring dilemma


I have a standard double 3 prong outlet (wired as one in a series - though I don't know where in the series it fits.) The outlet reportedly worked fine until a short occurred (a clothes iron was pulled from the plug while still on.) The breaker reportedly never tripped. Since then, that outlet and a half dozen others above and below by wall location are not functioning. I removed the shorted outlet and find that there is still a hot black with its paired white and and ground, as well as a line black, white and ground. The load(?) black tests as hot with simple $2 tester when connected with the ground but not when tested with it's white. When a new outlet is attached, the outlet doesn't function.

Can anyone give me an idea how to proceed toward a resolution of my problem?

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Old 08-16-2009, 04:18 PM   #2
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If you know the way they are running(outlets)Go to the one that is working thats where the problem usualy is. Are the outlets stab-ins or wraped around srews
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If you know the way they are running(outlets)Go to the one that is working thats where the problem usualy is. Are the outlets stab-ins or wraped around srews
You [probably] have a broken (fr. continuity) Neutral. As "300zx" (Poster #2) said. Start with the functioning outlet. Test across the leads and Hot to Ground. You'll find the problem in no time. Good Luck! (Now more than ever) Don't Drink and Drive!!!

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Test with an incand. bulb in a socket with pigtails; almost all testers respond to phantom voltages.
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Pull all the dead receps and the last working one.

In one of the receps, you have a bad/burned/loose connection where the wires are attached into the back of the receps.

Very common with iron usage.

Also, wrap the wires around the terminals instead of plugging them into the back.
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If you know the way they are running(outlets)Go to the one that is working thats where the problem usualy is. Are the outlets stab-ins or wraped around srews
The outlet I removed was stab-in installed...haven't checked the others. If they are, can I assume you'd recommend wrapping them instead?

Sadly, I don't know the direction of the run...it's my fiance's home and we don't have any original plans or direct knowledge relating to the construction. I'll check outlets at both ends and see if I can find the problem. Thanks for your help!

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You [probably] have a broken (fr. continuity) Neutral. As "300zx" (Poster #2) said. Start with the functioning outlet. Test across the leads and Hot to Ground. You'll find the problem in not time. Good Luck! (Now more than ever) Don't Drink and Drive!!!
Thanks for the help...I'll keep working on it.

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Test with an incand. bulb in a socket with pigtails; almost all testers respond to phantom voltages.
Grea suggestion...thanks!t
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Pull all the dead receps and the last working one.

In one of the receps, you have a bad/burned/loose connection where the wires are attached into the back of the receps.

Very common with iron usage.

Also, wrap the wires around the terminals instead of plugging them into the back.
Thanks for the info...much appreciated.
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