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Old 12-22-2014, 01:13 PM   #1
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Outdoor receptacle near natural gas connection?


Hi all,

Installing an outdoor receptacle in a few days and need to know if there are usually any codes restricting how close to a natural gas connection it can be?

The natural gas connection is the quick release type that goes to my Weber grill. The receptacle will be mounted on the side of the porch using UF cable, a water tight connector, GFCI and a hood as per code. The UF cable will be stapled under the porch along the joist until it enters the house.

Though right now I'm a bit annoyed as the box I bought has 5 holes yet they only gave me two plastic plugs so I guess its up to me to figure out what to do with the other 2 I don't need.

The main purpose of this receptacle will be to power a rotisserie which is why I'd prefer it close to the gas connection by the grill. If not, then I'll do what is appropriate as per code, if there is any?
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I am not aware of any specific code. But there is a gas code requiring that you need 36 inches from the meter or pressure release valves and any ignition source.

As some NG may be released when connecting or disconnecting the gas line, I think it would be prudent to use the same separation.

You may also want to check with your gas company or Building Dept. for any local code amendments that might have a mandated separation.
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Do you maintain a three foot separation between your gas burners on the stove and your countertop receptacles ? Or water heater. Or dryer. ??
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Do you maintain a three foot separation between your gas burners on the stove and your countertop receptacles ? Or water heater. Or dryer. ??
Wow,
I didn't think of it quite that way. Very good point too!
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Do you maintain a three foot separation between your gas burners on the stove and your countertop receptacles ? Or water heater. Or dryer. ??
None of those have a quick disconnect. When the quick disconnect is used, it leaks gas from the connection and/or hose.

Some people don't use the disconnect regularly, while others use it for every use of the grill. The risks go up with the frequency of use.
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None of those have a quick disconnect. When the quick disconnect is used, it leaks gas from the connection and/or hose.

Some people don't use the disconnect regularly, while others use it for every use of the grill. The risks go up with the frequency of use.
No,
But a gas stove sure can leak out a ton of gas if the burner blows out from air, or a boiling over pot, or someone bumping the knob when it's off etc.
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But a gas stove sure can leak out a ton of gas if the burner blows out from air, or a boiling over pot, or someone bumping the knob when it's off etc.
FSD's on modern stoves are designed to prevent that.
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FSD's on modern stoves are designed to prevent that.

What's an FSD?

We have a $1200 2011 Kitchenaid that the burners can blow out on, or just leak if you bump a knob. Perhaps something has changed since then, I donno?
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Flame supervision devise...

google is an amazing thang.



Mine is about 10 yrs old.... quite a bit of gas comes out till the tick tick tick finally ignites...

No disrespect Oso954...

What if I have ars gas, any dangers of standing next to a receptacle...
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Flame supervision devise...

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Mine is about 10 yrs old.... quite a bit of gas comes out till the tick tick tick finally ignites...

No disrespect Oso954...

What if I have ars gas, any dangers of standing next to a receptacle...
Hmm,
Wonder why my stove doesn't have one? At least I don't think it does?
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Just watched a video.
Our's is nothing like that, you push the knob in, turn it to light, it lights you move it to wherever, just like any other gas stove I've used in the past 30 years.

The FSD seems kinda nice, and annoying at the same time judging by the videos.
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