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Old 08-13-2010, 03:55 PM   #1
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I need to plug a fan into two outlets.

The reason being is I want the fan to turn on with a scheduled cycle timer, and also turn on if triggered by a thermostat device, i.e., if the room exceeds a certain temperature.

What is needed for this?

Thanks for any help!
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I want the fan to turn on with a scheduled cycle timer, and also turn on if triggered by a thermostat device
It's an 'OR function' and one way to do this is to wire the timer in parallel with the 'stat, which then becomes a 'wired OR'.

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What about a programmable thermostat, similar to this model that installs between a 120v plug and standard wall outlet?
I already have the fan, thermostat, and cycle timer. I just need them to work together.
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It's an 'OR function' and one way to do this is to wire the timer in parallel with the 'stat, which then becomes a 'wired OR'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate

Is there device that would make this simple for me? I can't re-wire things -- it's too advanced for me.
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Is there device that would make this simple for me? I can't re-wire things -- it's too advanced for me.
Then you need the storebought thing. It's the price you pay for having someone else do the engineering.

I'd find some high school geek who will wire this but
you assume no liability for his/her injuries.
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Yoyizit: do you know the name of a specific device?
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Yoyizit: do you know the name of a specific device?
From #2 post, check the specs on
http://www.pexsupply.com/Lux-PSP300-...ling-9547000-p
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not going to work for what I need... but thanks for the help, yoyizit.
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not going to work for what I need... but thanks for the help, yoyizit.
You could send out bulk e-mails to timer or 'stat manufs to see if someone nibbles at this request. Maybe 1/3 will answer or recommend someone who makes what you want.
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Is there device that would make this simple for me? I can't re-wire things -- it's too advanced for me.
That's why no one wants you wiring up this fan in the fashion you proposed.

What type of fan is this?
What thermostat?
What timer?
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It is a 6in HO Can fan: http://www.canfilters.com/fan_metal_home.html
EVC2 controller (thermostat): http://www.growgps.com/controllers.html
Timer: http://www.titancontrols.net/product.../apollo-2.aspx
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OK, so your two devices are made to except a receptacle while the fan is hardwired.

You could "rig it up" by simply connect two cord&plugs to the fan and then plug one into the timer and one into the thermostat. I do wonder if there would be any negative effect when the thermostat turns the fan on and backfeeds the timer, and vice versa.

This really isn't the best idea. What do you guys think about this setup?
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OK, so your two devices are made to except a receptacle while the fan is hardwired.

You could "rig it up" by simply connect two cord&plugs to the fan and then plug one into the timer and one into the thermostat. I do wonder if there would be any negative effect when the thermostat turns the fan on and backfeeds the timer, and vice versa.

This really isn't the best idea. What do you guys think about this setup?
Also, if both the thermostat and the timer turn on at the same time -- possible short?
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Also, if both the thermostat and the timer turn on at the same time -- possible short?
No, it wouldn't short.
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I need to plug a fan into two outlets.!
Putting two power cords on the fan is a very bad idea. Do not do that. Someone could get electrocuted when the cords are plugged in one at a time and the second plug's prongs are live for a moment.

You will need to buy or build a device with one power cord, one or more receptacles, and the necessary timers and functionality in between. The subcomponents such as the timer are preferably enclosed in a box with ventiliation holes if needed and must not have their own plugs and receptacles that are exposed and that could be unplugged accidentally leaving live plug prongs.
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