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Old 01-07-2015, 08:12 AM   #1
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Old Work Box Won't Work - Drywall Not Strong Enough At Corners


Grateful to know options. Blue Old Work Box with the rotating arms that grab the drywall when tightening them, won't work because they pull right through the drywall (one of them does anyway).
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Try a Madison bar also.
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Little nutty but if you can install a piece of thin wood or shim across where the wing is breaking thru so it goes against the shim and. It the sheatrock
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Grateful to know options. Blue Old Work Box with the rotating arms that grab the drywall when tightening them, won't work because they pull right through the drywall (one of them does anyway).

*If your wall opening is next to a wall stud, you can screw the box to the stud.
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Arlington 1 box
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If it's for a receptacle, could you turn it into a 2 gang box (double duplex) ??
Just another suggestion..

Yes those boxes are tough sometimes...

Sometimes it helps to runn the threads before installing the box also with those boxes to help the thread along so your not playing games..

I might suggest an old work metal with madisons, but using the plastic your hole is probably too big..

Try the first thought, adding a madison.

OK.. besides cutting a large square of new sheatrock for that area....

Leave the box for now, with the wing back.. fill the hole with a mix of spackle and plaster paris (maybe spackle mesh or paper too... maybe..).. let dry ( shouldn't take too long because of the plaster paris ).. retighten wing... NOT TOO TIGHT .

about it..
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If you are up against the stud, try the arlington F101.
If you are supporting just on dry wall, try the 7010-8. Different sellers refer to it by different names, Thomas and Betts, Carlon, Union.
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Little nutty but if you can install a piece of thin wood or shim across where the wing is breaking thru so it goes against the shim and. It the sheatrock

*That sounds like a good idea. Maybe a 2" wide strip of quarter inch thick Luan glued to the backside of the drywall would suffice.
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did you over tighten it...had a helper doing that all the time....
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did you over tighten it...had a helper doing that all the time....
Well, could be... I've installed plenty of these boxes in drywall (but apparently, not plenty enough), but the screws were really tight on this one, at least the one that came through the drywall. Tight enough that I didn't notice what was happening. I did take it back out, and run the screws through a bit, trying to loosen them up, but by that time... too late. Lesson learned, yepper.

Thanks so much for all the replies. Not sure what I'll do yet, but it is drywall only both sides. Not next to a stud. Wanna go look in the store at these different suggestions. No hurry on this job. Maybe this weekend.
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*That sounds like a good idea. Maybe a 2" wide strip of quarter inch thick Luan glued to the backside of the drywall would suffice.
Get a handful of paint paddles. Cut a piece about 6" long, glue in place with Power Grab.
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in your defense.. yep.. got a few with really tight screws ....makes it hard to judge how tight to make it...
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Get a handful of paint paddles. Cut a piece about 6" long, glue in place with Power Grab.
Like that idea too!
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in your defense.. yep.. got a few with really tight screws ....makes it hard to judge how tight to make it...
Thank you Sir!
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If you are causing the bars to pull through the drywall, either it is really thin, the back has broken off of the drywall, just leaving paper, or you are over tightening the screws to cause the brackets to pull through.

You only have to snug the brackets up, until the box moves and that is it.



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