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Old 05-01-2017, 12:09 PM   #1
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New buried line for Outdoor Pool


My town follows the NEC 2008 code, so from my understanding (and I may be wrong) that means direct burial down to 18" below ground level. My pool will be located about 35 ft from the house. It will be an above ground 52" high pool.

  1. What type of breaker? GFCI or AFCI?
  2. What type of wiring? Should I run THHN wire in conduit or can I use this UL rated Romex: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Southwire...5955/202316281.
  3. How high from the ground should the receptacle be?
  4. How to secure the receptacle if it is not near a structure?
  5. Any special grounding that needs to be done?
  6. Anything else that I am missing?
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You need to get hold of article 680 of the NEC and read the requirements for pool installation. Some of the requirements are very different than than ones you are used to.

Because of the differences in the requirements and the hazards envolved, I would recommend that you hire a electrician. Whether he does it all or directs you for parts of it, is something you can discuss with him.

After you read article 680, you will be in a better position to ask questions.

No, you cannot use the UF cable. It doesn't have the green insulated conductor required for a pool installation.

Yes, you will have special bonding requirements in addition to the normal EGC "grounding".

FYI, because of the water depth of your pool, it is considered a permanently installed pool, not a storable.
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Don't try to do this yourself. You're not an electrician and even seasoned electricians that rarely do pools might turn jobs like this down.

You at minimum need professional help and or guidance.

Let the pro make your job safe and compliant. Do not expect to read Art 680 and get it right, either.
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I called a few electricians to get some estimates so we'll see how that goes. I am guessing I can help dig the trench to save some cash on the install of the conduit. :-)
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Hey guys, a little update and more questions:

I called a couple of electricians to get estimates for the line and trench work and to say the least i got estimates on both ends of the spectrum and i dont know what to believe here.

To install one 20A line with GFCI receptacle, cooper bonding around pool, skimmer and feeder, dig trench and put back dirt afterwards:

Guy #1: $600
Guy #2: $2,400

Both are licensed, but guy #1 is older and more seasoned when you speak to him. i liked Guy #1 better from the beginning and both Electricians have good reviews (I found both on homeadvisor.com). Both told me exactly what needed to be done without me saying anything and they both nailed all the code requirements, but man with both estimates being so far apart i don't know what to think.

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Both told me exactly what needed to be done without me saying anything and they both nailed all the code requirements, but man with both estimates being so far apart i don't know what to think.

Thoughts?
Guy #2 is really busy and doesn't need the work.
Guy #1 just wants to do the job or wants to keep busy, although he sounds WAY too cheap to me.

I would have put it somewhere in the middle.
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Agreed. I had a guy once give me an estimate of $1,300. I thought that was high, but i guess that is a median price.
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$600 seems below-cost. Are the estimates for the same scope of work? Does the $600 estimate include detailed line items describing all the required work?
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Hey guys he said and I quote:

" it includes the labor and Materials and digging and putting the dirt back a complete job from the panel to where the receptacle is going for the filter. "
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" it includes the labor and Materials and digging and putting the dirt back a complete job from the panel to where the receptacle is going for the filter. "
THAT INCLUDED DIGGING AND BACKFILLING???

NO WAY a real electrician could come close to $600 for a job like this. He has to be retired or a side-jobber.
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Well he did come with his son and he had his son doing the run measurements and such and his son was about 18-22 (I am bad with ages) so maybe you're right.
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