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Need Help On A GE Breaker Box Model #TM1615R

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#1 · (Edited)
I am wanting to put in a 60 AMP 240 Volt 2 Pole Breaker in my box and at the bottom right I only have it looks like two spots open but not sure if a think breaker will work or if they make a Thin breaker for my box and if they do where do I buy it, I do not care if it is made by GE or someone else just so it would work. I have attached a couple pictures of my breaker box....

Thank you

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6818368746/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6818369046/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6964490475/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6964490589/
 
#14 ·
If they have quad breakers for your panel you may be able to get a quad breaker that has 2 pole 50 amp and 2 pole 15 amp you could shift your breakers up and have a full open spot for a double pole 60 amp breaker.

Call your local electric supply and see what they can get for you.

If you do use a quad make sure that your panel can handle that much per terminal on the buss bar. You may have to move the quad down two spaces and bring two tandems up.

Make sure you find out what your panel is rated for and also how many tandem breakers you are allowed before doing anything. Another option is a sub panel and moving some breakers to that panel.
 
#15 · (Edited)
OK I might have it figured out....please look at my picture that is at the link and see if that would work? I have a single pole 15 AMP and if I removed my 20 AMP and put my 15 AMP single pole where the 20 AMP was, which that I only use for my Christmas lights and then move everything up one one the right that would free up one then could I put my 60 AMP 2 Pole 240 volt in....thank you all so much for your help.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6818983788/
 
#16 ·
Nope.
All those breakers you have in green are 2 pole breakers and set up so they are on each buss.
They look like they are set up as MWBC and by moving them up one, you will overload your neutrals and have a hazard.

Househelper has the best solution.
 
#18 ·
Nope.
All those breakers you have in green are 2 pole breakers and set up so they are on each buss.
They look like they are set up as MWBC and by moving them up one, you will overload your neutrals and have a hazard.

Househelper has the best solution.
You've got my curiosity up. Is there a weird bus spacing on the right that would put one or more MWBC's on the same hot by moving them up? Would this happen because they are thin breakers?
 
#17 ·
You guy’s all rock…thank you all so much and especially to you HouseKeeper that is an awesome idea and will make it a lot easier for me….thank you all again so much for your help I really love the forums they sure do help people out.
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#19 · (Edited)


The thin line thqp double pole breakers must connect to the little tabs on each side of the bus stab. I think you can see why by moving them up 1/2 space causes the breakers to be connected to the same bus stab and not opposite hot legs. The full size thql style in the top position connect to the main spur of the stabs.
 
#27 ·
OK let me understand what your all saying, will it be OK for me to move my 30 AMP thick to the bottom, I bought a 30 AMP 1 in double pull breaker for down at the bottom of my breaker box and bought my 60 AMP thick double pull to put in where the 30 AMP was, I also have a question on the Neutral wire, I have attached a picture to make sure this is OK to mount the Neutral wire in my picture where I have the arrow pointing at...just making sure.

Thank you

Here is the link to the picture

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77767815@N06/6966722415/
 
#28 · (Edited)
Househelpers reply from post #13

Buy a slim 30A double pole to install on the bottom right, move the wiring from the 30A dp on the top right to there, replace the 30A dp with a 60A dp.
That's fine to connect the neutral to the lug your picturing, however that lug was more suited for the service neutral which is terminated on the left. You can terminate neutrals to any of the 2 neutral bars also ... probably up to 4 awg. Personally I would move the neutral in that smaller lug (next to the large lug) to the neutral bar under the breakers. That particular neutral is routed rather oddly. I see a grounding bar installed on the left side of the panel and then neutral bars are on the left and right side of the panel hidden slightly by the circuit breakers. Do not connect any neutrals to that grounding bar where all those bare egc's are connected.
I also see the main bonding jumper (green screw) on the right top. So this panel should be your service equipment panel, I would think, as I only see 3 wires for the service entrance.

I do not see any grounding electrode conductors to your grounding electode system ??
 
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#29 ·
Thanks Stubbie, I got everything hooked up yesterday and working great. Bought a Hex II tanning bed for the wife since she has psoriasis and this is the best thing for her, always tan and no outbreaks. Anyway the unit is working great.....thank you all so much for your help.

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