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Old 01-16-2010, 02:13 PM   #1
 
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Mounting the ceiling fan...


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I am remounting the ceiling fan and light to the center of the kitchen from it's original location which was near one corner of the kitchen. I punched a hole at the center and turned out that there is a ceiling joist perfectly next to the hole. Hate when that happens. I am seeing two options, actually three.

One: This one is actually a question. The drywall is 1/2". Is there a 1/2" junction box? If so, then I can screw that into the ceiling joist as well as a 2x4 bracket going between the joists.

Two: Mount the 2x4 bracket between the joists over the punched hole and drill perhaps using a 1/2" bit through it. Run the wires from the fan/light fixture through the hole and into the junction box above the 2x4. Make the connection with the black and white wires there and cover it. Is this method to code?

Three: Move the center hole off to one side (1 3/4") enough to put the junction box right next to the joist. My wife and I prefer not to go this route because the off center may be obvious. If option one and two can not be done, then option we have no choice but to choose option three.

Unless there is another option you can come up with, let me know. I appreciate any inputs. Thanks!


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Old 01-16-2010, 02:46 PM   #2
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The thin box you are wondering about does exist. It's called a pancake box. It's round and approx 1/2" thick. I've always bought them at my supply house, but HD or the other big boxes may carry them too.

Dont forget to ground the fan via the green wire.

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Thanks! I will look for it and buy it.
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The thin box you are wondering about does exist. It's called a pancake box. It's round and approx 1/2" thick. I've always bought them at my supply house, but HD or the other big boxes may carry them too.

Dont forget to ground the fan via the green wire.

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Thanks! I will look for it and buy it.
Get one that is rated for ceiling fans - the one pictured is not. If you use one like the above, you will need to support the fan independently of the box.
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you need get one thats rated for paddle fans like the one below.


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JohnJ0906, richgriffith, codeone

Thanks for your replies. richgriffith, the image didn't show up.

I bought the metal type and screw that into the 2x4 which is between the joist and also screwed in. The result is rock solid so I went ahead and installed the light/fan fixture. If this fails down the road, I will get the junction box meant for the ceiling fan.

Thanks again.
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JohnJ0906, richgriffith, codeone

Thanks for your replies. richgriffith, the image didn't show up.

I bought the metal type and screw that into the 2x4 which is between the joist and also screwed in. The result is rock solid so I went ahead and installed the light/fan fixture. If this fails down the road, I will get the junction box meant for the ceiling fan.

Thanks again.
The reason we need to install boxes APPROVED (for ceiling fans) is that sometimes, even though the original installation is ROCK SOLID, the fan can get separated from the box (threads not strong enough) especially when the HIGHEST speed is used for an extended period. The vibrations are, sometimes excessive, possibly due to a (slight) imbalance of the fan.!
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