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Old 04-27-2010, 08:12 AM   #1
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I installed some reccesed light over the weekend and yes, my cans are rated for IC however there is a bracket inside the can which moves the light down in order to be IC rated. I removed this bracket in order to put a full metal baffle into the can as opposed to the half baffle i usually do.

I am now unsure whether it is a hazard or not. (yes insulation is around the light)

I can always go put the spacer back ina nd buy a half baffle but like the look of the full baffle better...

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IC rated can fixtures have a T-Stat inside the can. When it gets to hot the T-Stat opens and the light goes off. As long as the insulation cannot touch the lamp (flush with the ceiling) it should be fine. I do not know what you mean by bracket, but that should have nothing to do with it.
What exactly do you mean?
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IC rated can fixtures have a T-Stat inside the can. When it gets to hot the T-Stat opens and the light goes off. As long as the insulation cannot touch the lamp (flush with the ceiling) it should be fine. I do not know what you mean by bracket, but that should have nothing to do with it.
What exactly do you mean?
Thanx for the reply, Well the can say IC/Non-IC. The can lights have a round metal spacer inside of them that spaces the ballast lower in the can (closer to the ceiling opening) The instructions basically say that if you are using for IC keep that spacer in there, otherwise it can be moved up or down, or taken out completely. I took it out completely because the ballast i bought enables me to do that.

As of now there is no insualtion on top of the can, just around it however i may want that insulation on top come winter again.

I'll try to get a picture or two up here shortly, hopefully that will help.

thanx again
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:31 AM   #4
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d'get pictures up, sorry. Any have an idea on whether i need to put the Spacers back in and use a half baffle or leave them out and keep my full baffle?
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What Mfg are the cans ?
Any links to their installation instructions ?



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http://www.chandelieruniverse.com/re...t_g206634.html

Trying to get more info.
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here we go...

http://www.thomaslighting.com//catal...structions.pdf
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What type of bulbs & wattage will you be using ?
CFL's generally eliminate the heat problem
That install indicates insulation must be kept 3" from the housing
---actually maybe the instructions are for both types ?
Weird, so its an IC can but if you use higher wattage bulbs (over 90w) then you convert & it is considered non-IC

So what wattage bulbs ?
That seems to be the key



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i'll check on the bulbs, the instructions are for both IC and non IC, same can can do both. From what i am reading, if you leave the metal spacer disk in that same spot it is (it's adjustable), it is IC rated and you can put insualtion all around and on top of the can) If moved up or taken out, (how i have it, but with a full baffle) it is not. hOwever then it says to keep insulation 3" from the can.

Confusing to me still. I really want the full baffle in there however if i'm not sure whether that would eliminate the IC protection.
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to save us all the energy, it is probably best to place the stop plate back in and purchase the half baffle.
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I went bold and contacted the company. The fixture is rated for IC however, if you removed the spacker socket, it is not unless you use the baffle that i purchased!!! So all is well and we are up to code. Thank you all for the help.
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