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Old 02-22-2016, 10:27 AM   #1
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Light fixture socket ring issue


Hey Gang,

I have an issue that has arisen for the second time now and am wondering if it is just me that has this problem. And also looking for any solutions out there.

We have a problem where the ceramic socket ring that holds the glass shade up loosens up over time and the shade slowly starts to work its way off of the socket base. We have been lucky enough that we see it start to happen and get the shade off before it falls off.

I went to our Home Depot to locate replacements and they do not stock socket rings. I am going to stop in at one of the large light stores in town later today to see if they have a supply of replacements.

So does anyone else experience this problem?

Do you guys have any quick fixes for this or is obtaining replacement socket rings my only option?

Picture of socket ring attached in case I am calling it the wrong thing.

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Old 02-22-2016, 11:29 AM   #2
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Post an image of the entire fixture. I'm not sure those are meant to hold a shade.
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I've never experienced them backing off. I usually tighten them at installation pretty good. I always put the flange side on first, so I can gain access with needle nose on the nub side.
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Post an image of the entire fixture. I'm not sure those are meant to hold a shade.
I'll try to do that tomorrow.
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I would just add a rubber O-ring under it.
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I would just add a rubber O-ring under it.
It gets darn hot in there so I thought the rubber O-ring would melt. Am I wrong about that? Are there are o-rings available that are designed for high temperature situations?
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Most sites list Buna n "O" rings rated for 250F and Viton "O" rings 350F and 400F on some sites.
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I have never had them back off.
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Does that ring screw onto a ceramic insulator around the socket, or does it attach straight to the negative metal shell?
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Does that ring screw onto a ceramic insulator around the socket, or does it attach straight to the negative metal shell?
It screws on a ceramic insulator.

I went to a big light store in town this afternoon and they had one laying around that they gave me. It is very obvious that the old ring is about a 1/16th of an inch larger in diameter than the new one. So it seems the original ring either came too large or expanded over time. So I think I should try to locate a few more replacements as we have 3 of these fixtures.

I will keep that o-ring idea in mind as well.

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Post an image of the entire fixture. I'm not sure those are meant to hold a shade.
Hey Joed, here is a photo. Sorry, didn't take one of the entire fixture, but I hope you get the idea.
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A light bulb.


Probably 60 watts as that is what I use. Until I went to LED. Because I wanted lower electric bills. Make sure the wattage of the bulb. Is the right size for the fixture. 100 watts, it can get to hot.

As for the ring. Just twist it back on with the shade.
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On boats we call incandescent lights "churn bogglers". Never knew why.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:38 AM   #14
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After googling and googling, I actually found this...

http://www.rona.ca/en/socket-ring-11805656

Picked one up yesterday and it actually works. Whew.... It is plastic so I will keep an eye on it.

Thanks for all your input gang.
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If you don't need to take the shade off to change the bulb, have you considered putting a small dab of glue on it where the ring meets the threads? It should keep it in place and if you just use a bit you should be able to break the bond if you really need to get it off
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