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Old 08-18-2010, 05:40 PM   #1
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I ordered a vanity fixture through an online store. I had an electrician come and install it for me. When he was done he said to me that it wasnt very stable and he told me that he didnt like the way it was designed to be installed and he used everything it came with. I asked what else I can do and he said send it back. I called the company and they wont take it back because it has been installed. So $166 later am I going to have to buy another one or is there a way to stabilize this fixture that looks like at any moment can come crashing down. It has three lights facing down the base is round and the lights are weighing the base forward from the top of base. Is there anything I can do to stabilize this fixture?

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:07 PM   #2
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The studs that hold the fixture to the mounting plate may need to be adjusted or the box may not be providing enough support.

Can you post a pic?
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I know exactly what he means, and he is right. SO Many fixtures these days are EXTREMELY poorly designed.
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I know exactly what he means, and he is right. SO Many fixtures these days are EXTREMELY poorly designed.
I'm glad you said that before I made an ass out of myself blasting the electrician

Suffice it to say, I've never seen one of these fixtures and I hope it stays that way


FWIW, this is why I like using metal boxes screwed into a 2X4 spanned across the studs for a vanity bar. You never know how big of a fixture they are going to want. The plastic boxes on those cheesy metal bar brackets twist downwards and pull outwards too easily.
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Thanks everyone for all the info and funny statements.

To: Proby LOL! I thought I should mention it. My electrician has done previous work and loved it.

To Jim Port I posted some photos for you to look at and let me know your ideas. I as well think it might be the box so should I call my electrician and ask him to change the box and if so in your opinion what box should I tell him to use and how do I suggest this. I dont want to come off like I know his job but this project is way over my head.

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I know exactly what he means, and he is right. SO Many fixtures these days are EXTREMELY poorly designed.
You betcha!

I have installed some that I'm sure were never meant to be installed!

Baths have some of the worst offenders.
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I don't see the photos.
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You betcha!

I have installed some that I'm sure were never meant to be installed!

Baths have some of the worst offenders.
I think the NEC should require a vanity rated box....
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I don't see the photos.
Go to his profile, you'll see the album on the right side.
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When he was done he said to me that it wasnt very stable
Substitute fact for opinion.

Ask the manuf. how much the fixture weighs, including bulbs.

Let's say it weighs 'P' pounds. Carefully and slowly load it down with an additional 3P pounds, which gives you the industry-wide safety factor of 4 [if it holds]. Applying this weight without warping the fixture may prove challenging.

You're testing the fastening to the wall, not the fixture.

It's likely the manuf. knows what it is doing.

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No need for semi-destructive testing and risking a large hole that would need to be patched. That fixture only weighs a few pounds at most.

It looks like the central arm may not have the stud screwed into the mounting bracket enough to let the canopy mount flush to the wall. There may be a wire behind the stud or a connection in the way. The box may not also be properly mounted or installed at an angle to the drywall and not letting the mounting plate sit properly. Was the box installed before or after the drywall? What type of box was installed?
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I agree that the fixture could be fixed.

Sometimes you gotta put in a little extra work to get something right.
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Hard to tell if the junction box is recessed or not due I know some bathrooms I have ran into they not always put a recessed pancake box at all the other soulation is make a wood trim around and it will hold it up little better.

But watch out the way that luminaire come with weak support bracket inside the junciton box.

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