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Old 11-18-2018, 06:17 PM   #1
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How to safely disconnect/remove baseboard heat?


We have one room with a small (~5' long) baseboard heater. It's in a room we don't use much, mainly just storage. The heater is not sufficient for the room anyway. I have turned the dial both ways all the way and every where in between and I can't get it to not turn on, so we would like to disconnect it. If we can/need to remove it as well, that's fine too.

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The dial end has most of the wires. The other end has just the two sets. I'm sure if I just undo some of the wire pairs it will stop working, but I want to try and do as safely as possible. If we decide to remove the whole heater down the line, would I need to do something different as well?

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Options:

1) turn off the corresponding breaker ( if itís on its own circuit)
2) disconnect one of the incoming line wires and put a wire nut on both single wires
3) trace the routing of the cable feeding this heater and disconnect it upstream.

All will work but you have to do #3 if you want to remove the heater



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I have turned the dial both ways all the way and every where in between and I can't get it to not turn on, so we would like to disconnect it.
I'm not doubting you, but the heater has a double pole thermostat. The only reason a double pole thermostat is used is to provide a definite off position to disconnect both lines to the heater. Are you sure you can't turn the thermostat knob a little more counter-clockwise past a detent to switch the heater off?
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Options:

1) turn off the corresponding breaker ( if itís on its own circuit)
2) disconnect one of the incoming line wires and put a wire nut on both single wires
3) trace the routing of the cable feeding this heater and disconnect it upstream.

All will work but you have to do #3 if you want to remove the heater



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Thanks!
For #1 I'll have to play around to see about the circuit. The breaker box is not labeled very well. Would this type of thing need its own circuit due to its power requirements?

I'll try #2. Does it matter which wire I disconnect? I'm assuming any one of them will break the circuit. I was going to cap the 2 coming from the wall so all the other wires are dead.

For #3 how do I track it back without ripping open the wall? Never had to do that before. Do I start with nearby switches or lights? Or just grab the wire coming out of the wall and pull as hard as I can?(kidding!)

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I'm not doubting you, but the heater has a double pole thermostat. The only reason a double pole thermostat is used is to provide a definite off position to disconnect both lines to the heater. Are you sure you can't turn the thermostat knob a little more counter-clockwise past a detent to switch the heater off?


That's what I thought. I'll try again tonight. It's also about 3" from the wall so it's tricky to even see the dial. Glad to know it should be counter clockwise at least (was debating with myself last night).

Also, do these have their own thermostat? Couldn't tell how it knew to kick on.

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The tstat Fishbulb mentioned is a double pole.

If you're in Canada, our code allows single pole for baseboards.
The code only specifies that the tstat must have 'off' marked on it if it is a double pole.

I think I remember something that the NEC doesn't allow this.

If you do have a single pole, you need to open the breaker. To be honest, I'd do that even with a DP.

As usual, test for voltage before you begin !
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The heater is not sufficient for the room anyway. I have turned the dial both ways all the way and every where in between and I can't get it to not turn on, so we would like to disconnect it.
You mean it won't turn off , I take it.

If the heater is on 24/7 , and the room is still below ~50˚F , then the tstat wouldn't be able to turn it off.
If that's the case, then it's going to freeze in there if you disconnect it !

More likely, the tstat is defective. Changing it out may fix the problem

Or at least if you have the DP (with the off setting), you can turn it on and off as you choose.
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If you do have a single pole, you need to open the breaker. To be honest, I'd do that even with a DP.
Can you explain what you mean by this? Do you mean open the breaker instead of disconnecting wires? Is there a way to tell by looking at it if it's single or double pole?

The room was added on after the original house was built but not done very well (which is quite common with the house...) so the temperature fluctuates a lot. That's why we only use it for storage. Down the line I would like to insulate better and run a line from the air handler.

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Do you have a T stat on the wall or just a dial on the unit?
Do you have more than one heater like this?
do you have 2 breakers tied together or one that is twice as wide as the rest that is 15,20,or 25 amps?
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Also, do these have their own thermostat? Couldn't tell how it knew to kick on.
Yes, that's what the device at the right end of the heater is.

Any luck getting it to switch?
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