How To Explain Electrical Circuits To Someone - Electrical - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
Advertisement


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Like Tree9Likes
  • 2 Post By dmxtothemax
  • 3 Post By stick\shift
  • 1 Post By 3onthetree
  • 2 Post By curiousB
  • 1 Post By DanS26
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Old 02-05-2019, 10:42 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 1
Rewards Points: 2
Talking

how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Hi
I have a landlady who doesn't understand how circuits work. She thinks my freezer has somehow caused the exterior outdoor receptacle to stop working. The outdoor receptacles are on their own circuits and the freezer is on another separate circuit that has the living rooms and a wall that shares two of the kitchen and two living room receptacles on it (and to clarify kitchen appliance receptacles (2) are at the cupboard counter and on their own circuit, and oven on it's own circuit)
I have tried to tell her this but she thinks something is drawing power to make this outdoor receptacle to stop working. I've spoken to two electricians and they confirm what I am trying to tell her.
Is there anywhere I can locate information on the internet where I can print it out and give it to her?

She also thinks an extension cord not plugged into anything that uses power draws power just plugged in to the receptacle (if that makes sense how I've written this). The extension cord in plugged in to the receptacle but nothing is plugged into the extension cord - it's just laying there doing nothing and she thinks it draws power so we can use the same receptacle to plug our vehicles in.
I think this place is old and the outdoor receptacle needs replacing but she seems to think that the electrician who came to fix the air conditioning installation issues should have fixed (all) the electrical issues (not if he is was just asked to deal with the air conditioning issue, she has told me other falsehoods so I don't believe what she says).

To me it's all an excuse not to actually deal with the issue, doesn't want to pay anyone to come out and fix it. How I'm coming to this conclusion is because she doesn't get the people she has hired to come back to fix something that needs done - such as a living room window that is missing something that subsequently lets water in if rain hits it at the right angle. Leaving me responsible to make sure it doesn't run down the inside wall when it comes in.

So in summary, does anyone know where there is an easy explanation how circuits don't draw power from each other (that a freezer on one circuit won't affect the circuit with the outdoor receptacle on it)?

And where there is an article about how extension cords don't draw power when not in use?
Thank you

Also my suite and hers have separate breaker boxes
TTT17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-05-2019, 11:22 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: New York State
Posts: 500
Rewards Points: 994
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


You might try explaining things in terms of something that is more familiar to her, like plumbing. When you connect a hose (which you can say is equivalent to an extension cord) to an outdoor faucet, it doesn't use any water just by being connected. But when you hook the end of the hose to a sprinkler, and turn on the faucet, only THEN is water used. Sort of like plugging a light into the extension cord and turning it on.

Similarly, if you have two faucets (i.e. two circuits), one in front of the house and one in back, when you use the front faucet to water the lawn (i.e to power your refrigerator), it doesn't cause the faucet in the back to stop working.

Electricity is about the flow of electrons through wires. In many ways it is similar to the flow of water through pipes.
RAL238 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-05-2019, 11:49 PM   #3
Member
 
dmxtothemax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
Posts: 5,180
Rewards Points: 7,320
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Once they are that set in their ways ?
You are wasting your time
She doesn't want to know
save your breath
Cause nothing will convince her !


J. V. and Bud9051 like this.
dmxtothemax is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-06-2019, 01:10 AM   #4
retired framer
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 23,214
Rewards Points: 14,316
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


There are people that will argue all day long that black is white and they are too smart to deal with facts or explanation.
The water hose is a good example but I would turn that a bit. I would just say things like her unused hose is running up her water bill and let her argue with that.
Nealtw is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 01:11 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Upper mid-west
Posts: 2,766
Rewards Points: 4,010
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


I think it would be a lot less work finding a new place to live.
J. V., Nealtw and w0j0 like this.
stick\shift is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 08:52 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Waseca, MN
Posts: 444
Rewards Points: 821
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


If you need the outlet, just replace it. Cost $2 and 15 minutes of your time. Just don't say anything about it cause she might freak out.
My experience with rentals is that unless it is a legally defined liveability issue like no heat or no hot water, even the most considerate landlord will be in no hurry to fix it. As long as you are paying rent, you are essentially stating that you are "ok" with the way things are.

Last edited by chiraldude; 02-06-2019 at 08:55 AM.
chiraldude is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 09:33 AM   #7
Hammered Thumb
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: SuburbanIL
Posts: 673
Rewards Points: 1,344
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nealtw View Post
There are people that will argue all day long that black is white and they are too smart to deal with facts or explanation.
Me thinks Neal just defined, ironically, internet forums.

Add emphasis that these little problems are catastrophic to her wallet. The window leak is occurring inside the wall too, so it's rotting the wall below and the house will fall down. The dead outlet is a fire hazard, and the F.D. comes during the night and tests these, if they're not working the landlord gets a $100 fine.
Nealtw likes this.
3onthetree is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 09:49 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,616
Rewards Points: 2,606
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Quote:
Originally Posted by TTT17 View Post
Hi
I have a landlady who doesn't understand how circuits work. She thinks my freezer has somehow caused the exterior outdoor receptacle to stop working.

The extension cord in plugged in to the receptacle but nothing is plugged into the extension cord - it's just laying there doing nothing and she thinks it draws power so we can use the same receptacle to plug our vehicles in.

Also my suite and hers have separate breaker boxes

You have separate breaker boxes, separate meters as well?
Why are you plugging your vehicles in, block heaters, or electric cars?

Is it "your" outdoor receptacle or "her" outdoor receptacle?
LawnGuyLandSparky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 01:59 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 1,399
Rewards Points: 1,234
Default

how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Itís magic....


But seriously communications only works when there is a transmitter and receiver. Your situation sounds like a broken receiver. No transmitter will overcome that.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Nik333 and 3onthetree like this.

Last edited by curiousB; 02-06-2019 at 02:01 PM.
curiousB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 03:45 PM   #10
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 6
Rewards Points: 12
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Quote:
Originally Posted by dmxtothemax View Post
Once they are that set in their ways ?
You are wasting your time
She doesn't want to know
save your breath
Cause nothing will convince her !

I totally agree with dmxtothemax!
You/No-one can't help those type of people. I am withholding using the term stupid.
markz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2019, 04:20 PM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Steamboat Landing IN
Posts: 498
Rewards Points: 849
Default

Re: how to explain electrical circuits to someone


Ignorance can be fixed with facts, logic and reason......but stupidity is not fixable and limitless.......don't even try.
Nealtw likes this.
DanS26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is a separate electrical subpanel required for a guest house? eholmes77 Electrical 11 02-10-2015 06:30 PM
Two circuits shorted, some input please.... Ralph III Electrical 19 12-23-2014 12:13 PM
several electrical circuits stopped working kobe Electrical 2 07-02-2012 09:11 AM
AFCI Help Please - Victorian w/ knob/tube - but running new circuits jefferson17 Electrical 4 06-26-2012 11:39 PM
Kitchen Electrical: one switch for multiple circuits esotericaqua Electrical 8 06-22-2012 05:09 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts