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Old 12-23-2009, 01:17 PM   #1
 
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GFCI On whirlpool tub


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Can a whirlpool tub be plugged in to a regular GFCI outlet instead of using a GFCI breaker at the panel as long as the circuit is dedicated just to the tub? Is it dangerous if the circuitc is not dedicated?
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:39 PM   #2
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Is this a 120v (plug in to a recptacle) or 240v hardware connection?

For my 240 hardware, I got a GFCI breaker with disconnect kit from Lowes - specifically designed for connecting up a spa.
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120 volt
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:35 PM   #4
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Receptacle or breaker. Doesn't matter, as long as it is GFI "protected".
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ok thanks guys
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I have seen 120v portable spa's with built in GFCI - sure you don't have one already? Just a thought.

Should not need to be a dedicated curcuit - but probably draws quite a bit of power so be aware of overloading possibility and poping a breaker now and then - a pain when you are all comfy in the tub.

GFCI protection outlet nearer the tub is much more convienent than a GFCI breaker in the panel - cheaper as well.

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Thanks for the info I appreciate it
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If it were me, I would want the GFCI of any kind at the closest point near me when there was any risk I could become the new electricity ground which tends to happen in bare feet. You should invest in a dedicated circuit anyhow for the hot tub.

And if the thing has a heater are you sure you should be running it on 120V?
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If it were me, I would want the GFCI of any kind at the closest point near me when there was any risk I could become the new electricity ground which tends to happen in bare feet.
Protection is protection. It does not matter where it is.


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You should invest in a dedicated circuit anyhow for the hot tub.
I bet you a dollar this is already required.


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And if the thing has a heater are you sure you should be running it on 120V?
Chances are he does not have a choice. The circuit must be whatever the voltage of the unit is.
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My jacuzzi in the bathroom is 120v
Tub has a dedicated run for the pump - 7a
The heater has a 2nd dedicated run
Both are protected by GFCI outlets

I have seen some smaller outside hot tubs that are 120v



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Protection is protection. It does not matter where it is.
Hugh?

The circuit shorts if it goes bad where it happens. If you wait for it, standing in your bare feet, near a hot tub or on a bathroom or kitchen floor, to trip the GCFI on down the line or pray the circuit breaker spots that you as a human being have become the new ground?

LOL

GCFIs were created to trip near instantly. I lost a dear friend that did not have one attached to the end of concrete saw. He was electrocuted in the time it took for the circuit breaker to pop. Had he spent $50 bucks

They are great things and belong nearest at least any place you might be working with electricity and water at the same time.
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Waiting for a GFCI to trip ? Since when



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sdsester .. you must not be an electrician. The entire electric circuit acts as one system. It does not matter where the GFCI protection is placed. Breakers are more expensive but also more reliable. Read on many other sites how many people have a lot of trouble with outlets tripping when they should not be. Especially if you buy them at a box store. This protected circuit monitors current leakage. When something with the circuit is faulty with a .5ma fault it trips. It does not wait for a human wet foot to trigger it.
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Hugh?

The circuit shorts if it goes bad where it happens. If you wait for it, standing in your bare feet, near a hot tub or on a bathroom or kitchen floor, to trip the GCFI on down the line or pray the circuit breaker spots that you as a human being have become the new ground?
I have absolutely NO idea what it is you are trying to say here. Wait for what????

And who is Hugh?
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... Is it dangerous if the circuit is not dedicated?

Check your installation instructions, all manufacture's of jetted tubs I'm aware of require a "dedicated GFCI protected separate circuit".
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