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Old 01-09-2010, 10:13 AM   #16
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unfortunatly the cord isn't long enough.
You would lift the heater out of the pool and bring the unit inside to plug it in.
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Both heaters are new and made for ponds.
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Both heaters are now frozen in the pond. My aereator is still running which brings oxygen to the fish and keeps water under the ice from freezing, I just don't know how long it will stay that way. The two GFCI's are on different circut breakers on my panel. I don't know if there is a surge when the heater is plugged in that is setting off the GFCI or if I need to repace them or add a more powerful breaker. None of this I think I can do myself so I probably will be calling an electrician Monday morning unless there are any more ideas out there. Thanks Much, Trudy
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:54 PM   #19
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It was about an 1/8" thick.
Could be they encapsulated it to prevent competitors from reverse engineering their product.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:34 PM   #20
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Could be they encapsulated it to prevent competitors from reverse engineering their product.
All new GFCI receptacles required for the 2008 NEC are required to be Weather Resistant, They are marked with a WR on the face they are also Tamper Resistant for the new 2008 NEC requirements also.
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All new GFCI receptacles required for the 2008 NEC are required to be Weather Resistant, They are marked with a WR on the face they are also Tamper Resistant for the new 2008 NEC requirements also.
My understanding is the WR is only required in wet or damp areas (406.8) ?



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My understanding is the WR is only required in wet or damp areas (406.8) ?
Thanks Dave left that out , was thinking about the original posters situation.
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Ah...Pond...yes that would qualify
I'm getting my threads messed up



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Please do not make duplicate threads across the forums. I removed your other one.

Thank you.
I had a hunch (that) she is disingenuous about the problem she is posting. But as a general rule, any object (in this case a heater) that is placed in water, the GFCI will pickup on it and trip out!???!!!
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Ah...Pond...yes that would qualify
I'm getting my threads messed up
Also all outdoor areas .
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Disingenuous? Sorry I don't understand everything that you all are saying. I came to this form for information. I would like to find out the problem with my GCFI. I think alot, not all, of you just like to blow your own horns and I feel some of you are the disingenous ones.
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But as a general rule, any object (in this case a heater) that is placed in water, the GFCI will pickup on it and trip out!???!!!
I've had multiple water heaters in my saltwater aquariums for the past 10+ years & they have never tripped the GFCI
Also several different pumps that run 24x7
Some people even have lights in their ponds & aquariums - underwater

So you are saying no-one has a pool light on a GFCI ?

I'm more then a little puzzled by your statement

Are you using in-use wet covers on the outlets ?





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how heavy is the extension cord youre using?
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You said the aerator does not trip the GFCI. That leads me to believe the problem is with the heater or the cord you are using to plug it in. You also tried the same setup in another GFCI and it tripped. Same conclusion to me. There is a problem with heater or the cord.

I am assume it is the GFCI feature that is tripping and not the over current protection. That could be a whole different issue. What is the voltage and wattage ratings of the heater? What is the breaker size of the circuit you are plugging into.
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Scuba Dave (Poster #27) (I didn't reply with the (ample) Quote. Because there is no use in my repeating the picture.) OK. Essentially, what I was saying is that if (as the poster stated) the heaters are sitting in the water (albeit partially), there's a good chance of them picking up conductivity (leakage current) thus improving the chances of a trip out! As for the pool lights. They are wired in rigid Conduit and sealed at the joints. Thus are close to 100% water proof. And in cases where there is moisture seeping in they DO trip out, too. I have had plenty of service calls for GFCI trip out's where the pool light circuit was seeping in (very) small amounts of water.! This is an addendum to the post! As far as pumps are concerned. No metal parts that trace back to the frame are dipped in the pool. It's mostly plastic. Therefore, the chances of conductivity are remote.

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