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Old 01-10-2010, 09:06 PM   #1
 
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Electrical help please.


So i went to install a new light fixture in my dining room. Most of my experiences with electrical work has been very cut and dry. One black wire, one white wire and one ground wire (green or bare). So i open this box up and what the heck??????????? Volt reader always found life.

Additional, it seems that my kitchen lighting is running through here, and also my back patio light.

What should i do?????
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Not enough detail in the picture to really see what is going on. So your old light worked fine?

When you say the volt reader always found life, do you mean that ALL of the colors of wire were hot???
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Pretty simple, actually.

The wires you disconnected from the previous fixture get attached to the new fixture.

Makes sense doesn't it?

The red is likely the switch leg and of course those whites spliced together is your neutral connection.

Don't be intimidated and never start taking everything apart unless you know what you're doing.
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Thanks guys,

Yes the Volt Reader kept going off, and even sparked and made the lights flicker in the rest of the house when i touched the cluster of white wires.

yes it seems simple enough, when you know what your doing. I dont know what i am doing.\

and yeah the old fixture worked fine.
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The lights were flickering because as that neutral splice comes apart it breaks the circuit. You'd be best off turning off that circuit before proceeding.
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i turned the switch off at the breaker, but it was still reading on the volt pen.....
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It is a good idea to always turn off the main power to the house before doing any electrical wiring. Some electrical boxes have wiring from more than one breaker in them. And sometimes breakers are marked wrong.

Use battery operated lighting to see your work if necessary.
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Sometimes those "volt pens" aren't very reliable. All they do is detect a magnetic field. If you're still not sure, turn off all the circuit breakers. But I would suggest you don't turn off the main breaker especially if you have an older panel.
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You've got a problem if you're still hot after switching the breaker. May be the breaker you think controls the light does not, may be something is wired incorrectly. To save yourself a lot of running to and fro I'd start by enlisting the help of an assistant - get on your cell phones and try and figure out if you've got the right breaker (and, hopefully not, that more than one breaker is involved).
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Some wiring in homes is called a MWBC or a Multi-Wire Branch Circuit. In this case, the power is controlled by two circuit breakers.
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Pretty simple, actually.

The wires you disconnected from the previous fixture get attached to the new fixture.

Makes sense doesn't it?

The red is likely the switch leg and of course those whites spliced together is your neutral connection.

Don't be intimidated and never start taking everything apart unless you know what you're doing.
I did what you said here man, i think i got it, will let you know in a few minutes
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finished thank you guys!!! i just never saw that configuration in a box before. Im no electrician............ Thanks again....
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