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Old 12-29-2009, 11:53 PM   #76
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I agree with that the pullbox is too small it must be sized 6 X of the largest conduit in the pull box so I did see 2 inch short coupling so therefore the box size should be 12 X12 X 4 that is legit size.

And yeah I did see compression fitting for ridge conduit but not very often I will touch it normally I used that for EMT but very rare for ridge conduits.

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Old 12-30-2009, 01:10 AM   #77
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every steel one I have seen has a rounded end rather than the quick squared off end and this one is very dull like a diecast fitting too.

like this



versus this, which looks like the one being used:



and yes, the box is undersized.

. Maybe the electrician he hires to sign off on it will not sign off until it is correct.
Should have made myself more clear, the fitting entering the top of the S.C. can, could be a steel EMT fitting.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:17 AM   #78
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Should have made myself more clear, the fitting entering the top of the S.C. can, could be a steel EMT fitting.
You know, I hadn't thought of that at all. I was just looking at that as if it was rigid/imc pipe. Now that you mention that fitting, maybe it is EMT on the bottom with an improper coupling above. If it was emt below and IMC above, that would explain why the fitting was loose on the lower pipe (evidenced by the marring from it moving).

Now that I go back and look at the picture with that in mind, it really does look like a fitting and not the end of a threaded pipe.

good catch norcal.




hey Boob, is the pipe at the bottom IMC or rigid also? It is supposed to be. If it isn't, it needs to be changed and you really should use a threaded coupling between the two pieces. Much stronger connection. If you need a partial piece threaded, check with the big home repair stores. They might thread for you.

That junction box is also too small to meet code requirements.

I'm liking this install less and less as more of it is exposed. I would strongly suggest speaking with the electrician that is going to hang his hat on the work ahead of actually installing it. You might end up changing a lot of stuff, at least if the electrician has any integrity.

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You know, I hadn't thought of that at all. I was just looking at that as if it was rigid/imc pipe. Now that you mention that fitting, maybe it is EMT on the bottom with an improper coupling above. If it was emt below and IMC above, that would explain why the fitting was loose on the lower pipe (evidenced by the marring from it moving).

Now that I go back and look at the picture with that in mind, it really does look like a fitting and not the end of a threaded pipe.

good catch norcal.




hey Boob, is the pipe at the bottom IMC or rigid also? It is supposed to be. If it isn't, it needs to be changed and you really should use a threaded coupling between the two pieces. Much stronger connection. If you need a partial piece threaded, check with the big home repair stores. They might thread for you.

That junction box is also too small to meet code requirements.

I'm liking this install less and less as more of it is exposed. I would strongly suggest speaking with the electrician that is going to hang his hat on the work ahead of actually installing it. You might end up changing a lot of stuff, at least if the electrician has any integrity.
It turns out that the whole thing was 1 1/2 inch EMT, not the IMC that I'd thought it was. I made the mistake of reading the requirements and so I assumed that it was put together correctly.

Anyways, I ultimately put it back together the way it was---hopefully none the worse for the wear. I wish that I'd had a bit more time because I could've certainly gotten everything up to code. I suppose that'll have to wait until the next tree falls on the lines...

As of now, the power has been restored and everything seems to be functioning. Interestingly, the 2 small wires were apparently used in the past to steal electricity for the water heater (as someone had suggested). The utility guy cut those off after looking it over (from inside and out).

Unfortunately, now that I know all that's wrong with this setup, I have to say that it's going to bug me every day until I get it fixed right.

Anyways, thanks to everybody for your help. I'll post to this thread again when it comes time to get this fixed for real.
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well, now we know why the conduit bent to begin with. If it was rigid, or even IMC, there is a good possibility it would have withstood the branch falling on it.

How did you ever get EMT past the inspector/electrician and the POCO. The POCO guys are not usually that dumb.
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WOW.,, 1.5 inch EMT periscope ??

Ya got lucky this time but really I think I strongly suggest that you do it right later when the weather get nice and do with 2 inch Rigid conduit I know it will take more time but with rigid conduit it can really withstand the strain of the service drop without much effort and couple tree branches it will brush off without putting a kink on the conduit.

And fix that pull box as well unless it below the meter then you can go with LB fitting that is the other item it is legit. { it will take far less room than 12 by 12 box but do not cover the LB cover at all you will need get into one way or other unless specifed in your codes requirement.

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I'm surprised they let you hook it the way it is.
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