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Old 06-23-2019, 01:04 AM   #1
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cheapest way to convert recessed eyeball light to flush mount wraparound?


Kitchen has one eyeball recessed light, too dim to light the whole kitchen.

How do i tap into the existing wires?

I haven't taken it apart yet, but since this is an eyeball, i'm assuming it has a dangling socket.

I want to install a 4ft led wraparound light, which can be screwed directly into drywall.

Is the only way to use a ripoff converter kit?
$18 for something that screws into the socket!

I wonder if i can just cut the wires off the socket and twist connect to new light fixture.
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Do you have access to the attic space? If so, I would change this lamp to an LED flat cover and add two more to compliment the need. I did this last week for a client who had only an over the sink light in her kitchen. Talk about a dungeon.
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I'd rather not climb into the attic.

this is a rental property, so I am only gonna use a 3800 lumen flush mount, which should flood the kitchen with light.

If the recessed canister has a dangling socket, I'm wondering if I can just cut off the socket, and then splice the wires to the new light.

As far as safety, this should be acceptable, right?

no one is ever going to remove the flush mount light afterwards.
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Rental property: if you are renting or the owner of the rental, you should not be doing electrical work. Hire an electrician and let him go into the attic.

Use of that adapter to feed a fixture would be a code violation as it does not extend the ground.
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Rental property: if you are renting or the owner of the rental, you should not be doing electrical work. Hire an electrician and let him go into the attic.

Use of that adapter to feed a fixture would be a code violation as it does not extend the ground.

Yes, exactly! Hire an electrician to do the job properly. Have the electrician go into the attic and run wires to 4 more recessed lights. Make it into a 5-on-a-die pattern. I just did that for a customer last week who only had a single fixture in the center of the kitchen ceiling. He may not even need to go into the attic if he has the proper wire-pulling tools.
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We did it all from a step stool and a fish pole using old work cans and LED trims.
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I see no problem with your idea.
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Rental property: if you are renting or the owner of the rental, you should not be doing electrical work. Hire an electrician and let him go into the attic.

Use of that adapter to feed a fixture would be a code violation as it does not extend the ground.

That's interesting that you say that's code violation, because they sell that adapter at home depot.

It just screws into the socket.

And similarly how led retrofits are done...
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Yes, exactly! Hire an electrician to do the job properly. Have the electrician go into the attic and run wires to 4 more recessed lights. Make it into a 5-on-a-die pattern. I just did that for a customer last week who only had a single fixture in the center of the kitchen ceiling. He may not even need to go into the attic if he has the proper wire-pulling tools.

What is the proper way to install one flush mount light?

I'm not looking to remodel the kitchen for a more complicated install, and higher material cost for 5 led lights.

Just install one light. flush mount. Thanks.

The 4ft wraparound led light only costs $30.
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That's interesting that you say that's code violation, because they sell that adapter at home depot.

It just screws into the socket.

And similarly how led retrofits are done...
That video is retrofitting to a new LED trim kit, not installing a 4 foot fixture. And that retrofit kit will be UL approved.
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What is the proper way to install one flush mount light?

I'm not looking to remodel the kitchen for a more complicated install, and higher material cost for 5 led lights.

Just install one light. flush mount. Thanks.

The 4ft wraparound led light only costs $30.
Again working in a rental property, a licensed electrician is required.

There is no easy way to do what you propose. The recessed can needs to be removed and replaced by a junction box.
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