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Old 02-16-2014, 12:39 PM   #1
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Chandelier wiring.


I just bought a new chandelier by illuminating experiences.
ELF 9 Linear Chandelier. It has 6 bulb sockets. It did not come with any instructions.
There are 2 sets of wires. Each has 3 wires coming out all 3 wires were entwined, therefore I thought one set will go to the positive and the other to the negative, the ground wire was already screwed to the housing. However, whenever I tried to connect, the main switch tripped. I tried to change but the same occurred. These wires were neither coded or labelled.
Is there any way to figure it out.
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With a continuity checker.
The lamp socket shell is supposed to go to neutral (white), the lamp socket center contact is supposed to go to hot (black) and the other is ground.
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show us a picture of the wires.....ben sr
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These wires were neither coded or labelled.
Is there any way to figure it out.
Thanks.
The code reads the neutral has to be identified.................so.

maybe it is or maybe it's not..................

If there's writting on one and not the other, it's the neutral.

If one has a rib in it's insulation, it's a neutral...

If one looks different at all... it's the neutral.... (your probably saying how can I tell different if I'm comparing two.....??? most of the time you can..)

check with a tester (not your tongue) if you want to be sure....
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Thanks Yoyizit, Ben and Ritelec for ur replies but I am still not sure what to do.

here are the pictures of chandelier and wirings. there are two wire, both similar to this one. Each has these three wires with no labels or color coding.
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Oh my

Looks like ground neutral hot.

Looks like your going to need a meter.
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I just bought a new chandelier by illuminating experiences.
ELF 9 Linear Chandelier. It has 6 bulb sockets. It did not come with any instructions.
There are 2 sets of wires. Each has 3 wires coming out all 3 wires were entwined, therefore I thought one set will go to the positive and the other to the negative, the ground wire was already screwed to the housing. However, whenever I tried to connect, the main switch tripped. I tried to change but the same occurred. These wires were neither coded or labelled.
Is there any way to figure it out.
Thanks.
EACH of those cable contains 1 hot, 1 neutral, and 1 ground. If there was no labeling on the ends of those cables, you have to check with a continuity tester to determine which is which.
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It could be that those cables contain two hots and a neutral in case you wanted to be able to have two switches controlling the fixture. The ground could be carried by the support cables. Like what has been said before, you will need to meter continuity between the tab in the socket and each of the wires to find out.
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YES !
Your going to need a meter !
There's plenty of cheapies out there !
Come back to us when you have one !
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Read a little on the model # and it looks like he may have DC voltage lamps? Maybe missing DC converter/Rectifier
- Chandelier wiring.-image-1965801809.jpg Smaller wires you mention may be the DC voltage? - Joe

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What's strange is that
the hot, neutral & ground wire in a conventional 120 vac chandelier are not connected to each other and so
no matter which of the six ways you hook up these three wires to the three connections in the ceiling box, no breaker should trip.
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If the hot is connected to ground at one end and the other end is grounded the breaker will trip.
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