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Old 11-03-2010, 09:54 PM   #1
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Cat 5 cable wall plate


Hi Electrical gurus,

I ran a 50 foot Cat 5 cable from the router in our office to the XBox in the basement. After running the cable we plugged it into the XBox and it worked great for 3 months.
Then my wife became annoyed with the outlet box and hole in the wall. Two weeks ago I cut the Cat 5 cable and stripped it back then wired it into a wall jack to clean up the wires. Now it doesn't work at all!

Are there 'cheap-o' wall jacks that would fail easily?
Did cutting the cable cause some other issue?
Are there any tricks / tips for getting all those little color coded cables into the tiny little receptors? Could I have broken a receptor when I wired it?

Help, please!!!! There is a good football game on ESPN 3 this weekend!
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:47 PM   #2
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hope you kept the plug end you cut off.if you have it match the jack to plug end.the jack should be a 8 pin?just like your router.you have wires in wrong place or the jack failed.the jack should have diagram...
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:35 PM   #3
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Generally, you need a punch-down tool to get the wires properly seated in those jacks. Some jacks claim that you can just insert the wires and push the plastic cap on to get them seated, but I don't trust it.

Also, those jacks probably have two sets of color codes on them, 568A and 568B. It doesn't matter which you use, as long as you use the same on both ends. From what I've seen, most people use 568B.

And is your wire solid or stranded? Some jacks are only rated for one or the other.

Try to keep as much of the cable jacket as possible intact, the jacket should run right up to the back of the jack. Also try not to un-twist the pairs any more than necessary.
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I found some stuff on wikipedia with color codes. It might help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable
I think I've seen female to female wall plates. It might be better to purchase and run a new cable and use a plug and play type wall plate.
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Thanks gentlemen!

The other end is plugged into the router, it is 568B.
Wires are solid 24 gauge, braided together in pairs.
Punchdown tool is included as a cap/punchdown that clips on to the back.

This cable was an absolute pain to run.

I think I'll try another jack tomorrow, I worked on it tonight.... no success.
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Try one of these:

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...3551&sku=35201#

then all you do is get a wall cover that holds a keystone jack.

you also may be able to get one of these at a home depot or radio shack
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Thanks gentlemen!

The other end is plugged into the router, it is 568B.
Wires are solid 24 gauge, braided together in pairs.
Punchdown tool is included as a cap/punchdown that clips on to the back.

This cable was an absolute pain to run.

I think I'll try another jack tomorrow, I worked on it tonight.... no success.
If the router end is 568B, then make sure the Xbox end is 568B. Sounds to me like you have it wired wrong.
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XBox claims that their system is 568B.

I spoke to an engineer at work and he said they only use the orange wall jacks RJ45? when running Ethernet cables. I didn't get a chacne to ask why, he had to go re-fix something.

I'm going to try that, the wall jack posted by baum looks exactly like what I have now (probably a better brand than mine though). Thanks!
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XBox claims that their system is 568B.
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It doesn't really matter. Just as long as its the same at both ends.

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I spoke to an engineer at work and he said they only use the orange wall jacks RJ45? when running Ethernet cables. I didn't get a chacne to ask why, he had to go re-fix something.


That's about they funniest thing I've ever heard. What does the color have to do with anything.
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That's about they funniest thing I've ever heard. What does the color have to do with anything.
We use 3 colors here at work.
One for the lan cable, one for the phone system(when not hooked to a computor) and one for just interanal testing
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We use 3 colors here at work.
One for the lan cable, one for the phone system(when not hooked to a computor) and one for just interanal testing
Looking at the wall plates, there is regular phone in white / Cat 5 in orange and RG-6. Probably just to stop the office folks from pluging computers into the phone jacks. ???

He said it kind of matter of fact.
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"When we refer to a jack or a patch panel's wiring connection, we refer to either the 568A or 568B wiring scheme, which define the pin-pair assignments for terminating UTP cable. The only difference between 568A and 568B is that pairs 2 and 3 (orange and green) are swapped."

So as long as the same theme is used at both ends, there should be no problem.

568B Wiring

White/Blue 5-Blue/White 4 _White/Orange 1-Orange White 2_White/Green 3- Green/White 6 _White/Brown 7-Brown/White 8

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