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Old 07-10-2010, 05:31 PM   #1
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Hi all.
Installing a can light (Thompson DY 6412 shower housing/trim kit).

The wiring part I've got under control, but I am sitting here scratching my head about the way the thing goes together.

It's a kit that can be used either for new or old work. It didn't come with directions.

See the picture for what I've got here.

The box obviouly goes on top of the can.

The trim has these springed-arms that dont seem to line up with anything.

I assume the plate with the slot for the rails I dont use in this setup.

Then there are these 4 big clips and these 3 tiny clips and four screws.

Anyone know what goes where?
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Please--do your self a favor and return that---Buy Halow or another quality brand--those are not worth installing.---Mike---
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That bad eh?
This sound good?

H7RICT OR H7RICAT
+ 172SNS trim?

(about same size, has the nickel trim i need, shower-rated and for remodel).


Should I even ask why the Thomas stuff seems to cost twice what the HALO i just looked at costs?
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Most of the Thomas lights that I have seen are a nightmare--sort of a combination,remodel/new construction compromise. Little bitty clips that will not stay in place,metal parts that are thin and just don't fit together well ---poor quality.

If you choose to use that you will be frustrated to tears.---Mike--
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Well I had to put it in at least temporarily (showering in the pitch black is just not very practical....), but I see what you mean...really poorly made - and gapping from the ceiling.

Will be replacing with HALO...or something else good. What are my other solid choice?

Thanks!
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Juno--Halo--even Commercial Electric at the depot.

What you want will say--IC (insulation contact)--air tight.

Also the light in the shower should be on a gcfi circuit.--That is easily wired to the LOAD side of the bathroom gcfi outlet.

There are a bunch of electricians here---hopefully one is on now and can clear up any thing that I may have confused you with.---Mike---
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There's no code calling for a high hat to be GFCI protected. Some people do it, but it's not necessary. If you use the GFCI receptacle to protect it, be aware that if the receptacle ever has a ground fault, you will loose the light too.

The only fixture I have ever seen that required GFCI protection is an exhaust fan mounted above the shower, but that is required by the manufacturer, not the code.
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Some of our local codes do require any fixture above a tub or shower to be gcfi protected.

Good to always check local codes.
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Some of our local codes do require any fixture above a tub or shower to be gcfi protected.

Good to always check local codes.
Yeah, I should have mentioned that some municipalities might require funny things.

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I'm in Illinois---Cook and DuPage countys are still all conduit--No Romex--Lots of unique codes around here. Keeps a person on their toes.
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I'm in Illinois---Cook and DuPage countys are still all conduit--No Romex--Lots of unique codes around here. Keeps a person on their toes.
Yeah, you guys pretty much write your own electrical code, it's very strict. I can't imagine piping houses
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You just keep saying to your self--$55 an opening -is that enough?
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I did see that type of recessed can and that type I am not a strong fan of that one and I have dealt with it before and IMO that one of few worst products I have run into the two issue is the top box where the conductors will be hook up and second issue is the remodel clips they don't always hold well at all.

I rather use the Juno or Halo I know it cost more but in long run they are well built for the money worth.

And easy to find proper parts as need to.

Now speaking of RCD { GFCI } yes and no depending on how high the shower recessed luminaire mounted if over 7 or 8 foot then you don't need it unless the local code say something else.

The fart fan { exhaust fan } gernally will say yes with RCD due the manufacter requirement.

Merci.
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