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Old 04-25-2010, 05:32 PM   #1
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Hey y'all, I have been out of the industry for a few years and was curious how local jurisdictions have been handling the '08 AFCI requirements. I vol/work for the local Habitat affiliate and see my County only enforces '05 rules.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:59 PM   #2
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The state is on the 08 code, so I don't see how the county is on the 05 code.
I don't have the link at home, but I will post the state ammendments from work tomorrow.
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Around here, it's still 05. The 08 code isn't any too popular with anyone. Well, the socialists, communists, and marxists are all for it, but everyone else.....

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Indiana 2008, no AFCIs and no TR receps.
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Hey JB i just looked on the states website and it showed they excepted it but that it expired the first of this year. That being said the house Im building for Habitat hasnt had the breakers installed yet so I will be curious to see if its jam packed with AFCI's. The AHJ made the electricians install a wall recp in the kitchen that the low bid guys missed. Good call on his part, but then the AHJ said it had to be GFCI protected cause it was going to be with in 6 foot of the kitchen sink. I just sighed, grinned and said "You betcha Mr. Inspector Man".
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I encourage EVERYONE to build safe, especially those in a position of authority. Especially when not doing so could endanger someones life. I hope you follow through with the Inspector's requirement so you are not blood-guilty later..... I apologize if I'm wrong and it was just a bad joke. With so many quality workers out of work now.... Where is your location?

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oregon does not require afci breakers except in bedrooms.
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GBR a wall receptacle in a dwelling unit kitchen is not required to be GFCI protected. Mr. Inspector Man got all twisted up with the laundry room requirements.
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The state is on the 08 code, so I don't see how the county is on the 05 code.
I don't have the link at home, but I will post the state ammendments from work tomorrow.
From what I understand, who ever is the AHJ (or specifically the one with the athority to make the rules for the AHJ) determines what rules to follow.

Where I live, the state has one set of rules. My local county has more strengent rules. My city has more relaxed rules. Since the city is the AHJ, the city rules apply.
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HKD, In Gwinnett County, GA I suspect part of the problem is that 85% of our inspectors were laid off with the market crash. AHJ or not, a HVAC inspector is gonna have trouble inspecting electrical installations. Which is what Mr. Inspector Man was before the crash
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Around here, it's still 05. The 08 code isn't any too popular with anyone. Well, the socialists, communists, and marxists are all for it, but everyone else.....

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Hey y'all, I have been out of the industry for a few years and was curious how local jurisdictions have been handling the '08 AFCI requirements. I vol/work for the local Habitat affiliate and see my County only enforces '05 rules.
South TX here - inspectors in San Antonio and Austin are, and have been for a while now, enforcing the '08 NEC. Our percentages of TR sales and non-TR sales on resi 15A duplexes have pretty much traded places in the last 18 months.

But outside the cities we are still hard pressed to sell TR devices. And since we don't rep any gear lines my only experience with AFCI's is when I have to tell people that no, nobody makes an AFCI receptacle.

And one thing I'll point out with wiring devices - don't forget that the '08 Code also calls out weather-resistant receptacles as well as TR.
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