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Old 08-24-2019, 11:06 PM   #16
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Re: Weed Identification Post #89542


One exposure probably won't hurt you. If in doubt: Shower thoroughly in COOL water.

Unless you have Creeping Charlie everywhere, it was unnecessary to treat the entire lawn.

If you got the weeds wet at all it was probably enough. You may find spots you missed or got too lightly. Give it a couple weeks, then spot-treat as necessary.

If you do find yourself needing to do this on a larger scale again, you might find something like this a better option: https://www.amleo.com/master-gardene...rayer/p/MGS9G/
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:34 AM   #17
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I have pretty wide spread charlie. Where I don't have charlie, I have a lot of clover and this kills that too. So I figured I probably need it pretty much everywhere. There were very few times when I felt like I was pointlessly spraying nothing but grass.
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Yeah, a pump sprayer to spray an entire lawn is not practical, IMO. And I don't like hose-end sprayers at all. So, before I treat again next time I'll be acquiring something like that Master Gardener powered cart sprayer.
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Yeah, a pump sprayer to spray an entire lawn is not practical, IMO. And I don't like hose-end sprayers at all. So, before I treat again next time I'll be acquiring something like that Master Gardener powered cart sprayer.
Yeah it was awful. But I knew that going in. However that was why I was trying to find a granule based solution. Using a spread is a piece of cake. Using a 2 gallon pump sprayer took about 2.5 hours and was a real pain in the ass. But if it works, it will have been totally worth it.
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Update:

Some interesting results from the spray. Some of the strips of Charlie turned brown and died almost immediately. Yet, mixed in with that, were some green plants that looked completely immune. Yet they are the same exact plant, it was very odd.

After letting some time pass, I'm getting a lot of the following: Plants that looks like they died exactly where the chemical landed, but are find elsewhere. Is this normal? Are these all going to die eventually or do I need to spray again? I'm not sure if the plants pictured are the creeping Charlie or just something similar, but I'm having the same results out back where I have the big Charlie problem.

I do have a little bit left over so I can respray some areas if needed but I don't have enough to respray the entire yard.
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I had some of that stuff growing alongside my driveway. Most of it got dug up when I put in a walkway there, with a short retaining wall.

I was sort of hoping it would come back and grow to hang over the wall (just a couple of landscape timbers high.) I thought it might look good. It had also started colonizing underneath a pine tree where nothing else would grow, which I liked, but this year the grass seems to have taken over.

I guess one man's weed is another man's landscaping. Go figure.

At any rate, thanks. Now I know what it's called, and I know to be careful not to let it take over!
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Plants that looks like they died exactly where the chemical landed, but are find elsewhere. Is this normal?
In my experience, yes.

Give it a couple of weeks or so just to be sure of what is dead and dying, and what has survived. I then go back out and spray anything that is still bright green. Check the instructions on your weed killer, if they have anything to say about re-application.
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Hmmm... For me it took only a single application. But, yes: Sometimes a follow-up application is needed.


If you didn't, last time: Next time try adding a squirt of dish soap to the mix. Acts as a surfactant to make the herbicide more effective.
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@l008com , good luck!

@joed 's comment about a fat and happy lawn is well-taken, but I'm forced to offer a big caveat, based on my Ohio experiences.

The huge trouble I've had with weeds like Creeping Charlie and the like is that they do best in places that are shaded and damp; in other words where your grass is often at a serious competitive disadvantage, because most lawn grasses in your neck of the woods really appreciate sunny good drainage. (Like in Ohio.)

So, if your spraying doesn't eradicate it, you might have to do something to improve the drainage a bit, which could level the playing field for your grass just a bit, and make complete control easier.

The caveat is that doing something like that is a huge pain in the posterior. That means digging and excavating and building up the soil level adding sand, yada yada. Sometimes you can trim trees or shrubs that shade an area too much, though my experience has been that the worst trouble tends to be in places shaded by buildings, which are a lot harder to truncate (unless slated for demolition).

So, let us know what happens and wishing you the best of luck!

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Update:

Some interesting results from the spray. Some of the strips of Charlie turned brown and died almost immediately. Yet, mixed in with that, were some green plants that looked completely immune. Yet they are the same exact plant, it was very odd.

After letting some time pass, I'm getting a lot of the following: Plants that looks like they died exactly where the chemical landed, but are find elsewhere. Is this normal? Are these all going to die eventually or do I need to spray again? I'm not sure if the plants pictured are the creeping Charlie or just something similar, but I'm having the same results out back where I have the big Charlie problem.

I do have a little bit left over so I can respray some areas if needed but I don't have enough to respray the entire yard.
As the others have said, be patient and persistent.
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Perhaps weight a month before trying again.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/pla...ng-charlie.htm

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In order to kill creeping charlie, you must apply dicamba based herbicide to your lawn in early fall when creeping charlie plant is growing most actively, which will leave it weakened enough so that it will have a difficult time surviving the winter. You can also apply in the late spring to early summer, but late spring to early summer applications will stall rather than eradicate creeping charlie in your lawn.

Definitely add some soap to the mix. It acts as a surfactant and makes the liquid spread over the leaves instead of beading up.

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I've always been told you have to hit creeping charlie two times. Ideally not long before the winter kill.

I'm guessing you'll need to hit it again here pretty soon. A few weeks.

Good luck, that stuff is tough to get rid of.
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I gave it some more time and a lot more of the stuff had disappeared. The stuff that's left looked pretty healthy. And there was much smaller areas of it. So I used what I had left to reapply today. I added the dish soap as instructed, hopefully this wipes out the rest. I guess I did a thicker coat this time around because I could smell it in the air pretty strongly even an hour after I was done spraying.

THEN about 3 hours after I applied, we got a surprise hour long rain storm that was not in the forecast! Hopefully enough of the poison soaked in before it all washed away. The label says watering within 4 hours may reduce effectiveness. So I'm right on the borderline of that
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The good news is you know it works
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The good news is you know it works
I do but I think it's illegal in my state so I probably wont' be getting it again. Hopefully, if yesterday's application kills the rest of it, i can keep it at bay without this stuff. I hear boric acid works on it, and I use that around the house anyway
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