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Old 05-01-2014, 01:51 PM   #1
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Paver installation question

Want to remove pavers from the backyard that a previous owner installed and use some to border my narrow driveway. Basically intend to make it wider to walk on, not to drive on.

Haven't measured it out yet, but to get an idea, 12 feet by 2-4 feet wide.

I figured I would edge the pavers with those paver edging and stakes. I'd fill joints with paver sand.

Question is how vital is it to dig 6-8" and use gravel, then sand, then pavers? For simply walking on them, is a shallow base of just sand adequate or no?

I've installed a garden border with stone before. Without and researching, my method was simply dig out the border to make a level base and set the stones. I pounded them into dirt with a dead blow hammer and they stayed put for the next year. Of course these weren't walked on regularly.

I just wondered if for a simple walkway if gravel and tramping is necessary? I want it to last, just trying to minimize out of pocket costs because all the projects around the house are draining the accounts.

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Old 05-01-2014, 03:28 PM   #2
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If you want any water to drain away, and not puddle on this walkway, the gravel is a must. As well as compacting it correctly, to keep the pavers in place next to a driveway. There is always someone that cannot back up in a straight line to save their "donkey". And will wander off the edge.

There should be plenty of gravel under the pavers in your backyard if they were installed correctly, you will need to get fill to re grade the yard when you remove the pavers anyway, so why not take the gravel too.

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Alot depends on soil conditions and moisture and freeze thaw cycles. I tried it once and it work so-so. It started to sink a little in a middle after a year. I even used a poor mans tamper. (Use truck to drive over it) Its been 5 years and it is on my list of things to fix.
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i did a very small walkway, say, 20" x 6'. it sank a little. but, this was in a low damp spot.

if you are low on funds, just try it. and know that you may have to fix it in the future.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #5
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If it is to widen an existing driveway, the pavers should be put in with a proper compacted base (6" or so) a 1" sand setting bed, just as paver driveway or street would have.

As long as it looks like a part of the driveway someone with drive over it and park a couple of wheels on it and cause settlement that allows water to collect until it is replaced. - Settled pavers plus water collection is a recipe for a failure.

For a DIYer, it is no problem but just a little more base material and work so get something good out of your "free" labor. If it was me, I would do both sides of the drive(if possible).

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As long as your not's fine.

If your 2-3 weeks the pavers will start to move...and every time you look at it you will just hate it. It won't be long before you get a chair and a cold beer and sit down looking that the uneven pavers saying to yourself "I should have listened to them".
Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there.

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