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Old 05-28-2013, 07:31 AM   #1
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leaking pond help


The pond was built by the previous homeowner.



I am not sure what material he used but it doesn't look like the pond liner I've seen. It's leaking kinda bad. It's 9'x5' and about 30 inches deep. My question is what I should go with preformed or rubber.
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You need EDPM liner. You can buy a new liner and start over.
If you plan on keeping fish, ( such as goldfish) you should go
at least 36" deep at a minimum. As long as you're doing it over
go bigger, as 9 x 5 is very small.

I could go on and give
you some more advice, but don't know how much work
you want to invest in a new pond?
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That looks like they tryed to use 6 mil plastic instead of a real linner.
We have one down the road where someone tryed using a cheap blue tarp, boy is that pretty.
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I am doing all the work myself. We had goldfish in it last year and a Lily plant. We found online that the fish in this area need to come inside or have an aerator. We already have a fish tank so they came in. Good thing because the pond didn't make it, we had a feeling it had a leak last year but now it's fast. It is an odd material .. it's got some type of fabric inside it but it's kinda stiff and rubberish.

Our winters can harsh. I don't think I will increase the size that much we want to redo the landscaping and put in a bench.
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ok, we did a DIY pond as well...for what you want, just get another
liner (EDPM) liner...yes, if you want to keep the fish outside in the
winter you'll need a bubbler. We use an aquarium bubbler...the kind
you can get at Wallmart for a few bucks. It keeps a hole in the frozen pond for the gasses to escape. Or, you can bring them in for the winter.
That's not an option for us, as our fish are 24" long.

We have a 'shelf' around the entire pond. This shelf is built up with rocks
and pond plants are on the shelf buried in the rocks on the shelf.
The reason I mention this is that it hides the liner and avoids the 'rock necklace'
look that many ponds have.
I'll get an instructional pic on how to do the shelf.
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Here is the shelf we did. Keep in mind our pond is big so the shelves
are big. You could do your shelves shallower and not so wide...maybe 8" deep and at least 8" high...
just make sure it's big enough to bury the pots
on the 'shelves.'

This is the way to do the shelf...It actually comes up to ground level, then
additional rocks are place around on the ground. It actually hides the liner
and avoids the 'rock' necklace look.

Truthfully, it's not any more work than just digging a hole...it's more rocks
though...
This is the dog leg section of our pond(on the left) It was an add on in 1998,
it's 6' wide and 13 ' long...(on the right is the old section of the pond) Note: when you look
into the pond you don't see the liner on the
side walls.
The dock houses the skimmer (DIY old pool skimmer) that we use only in early spring and fall.
Note how the rocks jut out off the shelf.

this is from 2004


This is from 2003...again the shelves are around the entire pond.

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Your pond looks absolutely amazing. Not sure how detailed I want to get yet.

What will last longer EDPM or the preformed ponds?
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Your pond looks absolutely amazing. Not sure how detailed I want to get yet.

What will last longer EDPM or the preformed ponds?
The liner will last a long time... there is a twenty year guarantee on them.
In cold climates -- the preform ponds can easily crack.
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Thanks.

Does the EDPM have fibers in it? I am still wondering what the old home owner used.

What should be under the liner? Sand?
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No, no fibers. It's like a membrane...like roofing material. It's tough stuff
and hard to pull out the wrinkles. However, in a small pond it would
be more manageable to get the wrinkles out.

They're are many things you could use for liner underneath, such as old carpet,
old carpet padding, sand, even layers of wet newspaper.
We used layers of wet newspapers.

Looking at your pond, it looks to me to be very thin material, like plastic bag thin.
The EDPM liner is heavy and the wrinkles are big folds, not a series of bunched
up wrinkles as depicted in your picture. How old is that pond?
Was that it's first and only winter?

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The house was built in 2004 and we purchased it in 2012. So it's anywhere from 2-9 years old.
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The house was built in 2004 and we purchased it in 2012. So it's anywhere from 2-9 years old.
my guess would be in the two year old category...
that stuff in the pic is very thin.
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