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Old 07-25-2011, 10:59 PM   #31
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Just keep in mind that we take fresh water for granted. In this state we use it faster than the aquafores, for example, are able to replenish it.

And remember profits from your use of water go primarily to foreign, not domestic companies.

WATER AND WASTE WATER TREATMENT
  • Of the four largest water companies that provide operations and maintenance services to publicly-owned water and wastewater systems in the U.S., only one—OMI—is a domestic company.
  • More than 2,400 water and waste water systems in the USA contract with private firms to operate and maintain them. Veolia Water, for instance, is the a subsidiary of a French firm and serves more than 600 communities and 14 million people through public-private partnerships with local governments, including the nation’s largest water partnership in Indianapolis.

    In addition, 15 percent of the U.S. population is served by about 20,000 private water and wastewater utilities - most are domestic subsidiaries of foreign firms.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:11 PM   #32
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Just keep in mind that we take fresh water for granted. In this state we use it faster than the aquafores, for example, are able to replenish it.

And remember profits from your use of water go primarily to foreign, not domestic companies.


WATER AND WASTE WATER TREATMENT
  • Of the four largest water companies that provide operations and maintenance services to publicly-owned water and wastewater systems in the U.S., only one—OMI—is a domestic company.
  • More than 2,400 water and waste water systems in the USA contract with private firms to operate and maintain them. Veolia Water, for instance, is the a subsidiary of a French firm and serves more than 600 communities and 14 million people through public-private partnerships with local governments, including the nation’s largest water partnership in Indianapolis.

    In addition, 15 percent of the U.S. population is served by about 20,000 private water and wastewater utilities - most are domestic subsidiaries of foreign firms.
So your conclusion or point is what exactly? Consumption of water is unAmerican? OR anti US business? Or anti-union? Maybe we should have our current government legislate and ration how much water we can each drink each day. Better yet...Ban water usage altogether!! Maybe water consumption somehow supports the Taliban? Or Whitey Bulger? Maybe Elvis is hiding out in Santa Monica too...with Amy Winehouse and Jim Morrison...
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:29 PM   #33
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Lived where water was rationed already once. It was quite challenging and frustrating. It was part state government involvement but also company policies over which we had no say. The place? Northern California and water that was its ours. It continued to flow to Southern California without rationing there though.

Made people nervous and very angry to the point some were calling for splitting the states into two governments and other ridiculous nonsense.

Southern California had pretty lawns though even in that year. Northern Californians learned to conserve and implemented things like drip irrigation and bricks in their toilet bowls. Their lawns, unfortunately, went brown.

Not saying their is an answer. I am just saying that like it or not, given that fresh water is a precious commodity, and that we are in places running out of it? If we do not conserve it on our own someone will step in and implement rationing on as drastic a level as is required. And that is probably going to be big government. So do not complain when it happens.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:43 AM   #34
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This is a pretty good website for simple organic lawn care.

http://www.richsoil.com/lawn-care.jsp

Mow high, water infrequently but deeply, don't stress if the grass goes dormant. It goes green again when the rain comes back. I inherited a weed patch from the previous owner and just by doing these things and overseeding in the fall, the lawn is green and improving.

If you're looking to make your lawn a monocultured golf course green, well, it'll take a *bit* more effort to keep it up.
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do you mulch that lawn or bag it the nutrients that go back in call for no fert.and like yourself i do a lime run 2X a year.i would cut back on the watering found doing at sundown here on the south shore of LI for half hour once a week and watching the weather.trying to get my neighbors to set the blades up higher to shade the roots...and they don't mulch and the browning is starting after that tri-state heat we just had last weekend
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Mulch in the grass clippings. If you are mowing frequently enough, you won't be cutting so much grass off that it clumps.
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Mulch in the grass clippings. If you are mowing frequently enough, you won't be cutting so much grass off that it clumps.
My husband mows our lawn 2x a week and every other week he leaves the clippings on the lawn. The other weeks we put them in our compost pile.

BTW, watering isn't the problem if the OP has fescue or rye grass, which they stated they had. Watering will help, but these cold weather grasses will turn brown in the dead heat of summer or during prolonged hot spells. I bet the lawn looks great in cooler months! We have bermuda in our back yard and it's amazing in the summer, but looks like crap in the winter. We don't mind because all the leaves are off the trees and it's not so pretty anyway. We also have a lot of yard parties and the bermuda can take a beating.

One thing you can do is a blend of cold and warm-season grass. Guy across the street does this. In the spring he overseeds with bermuda, in the fall he aeriates and overseeds with fescue. Best looking lawn ever.
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The problem is if you water too much, the grass roots stay shallow (where the water is). If you get hot weather and forget to water, you get stressed grass really quickly.

By watering infrequently and deeply, only when the grass begins to wilt, you train the grass to send down deeps roots. If the roots are established nice and deep, then several days of hot dry weather won't hurt them - they can still get water from deep down.

Another advantage of doing this is that weeds generally are shallow rooted. A couple days of hot and dry might selectively stress and kill the weeds and leave your deep-rooted grass alone.
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The problem is if you water too much, the grass roots stay shallow (where the water is). If you get hot weather and forget to water, you get stressed grass really quickly.

By watering infrequently and deeply, only when the grass begins to wilt, you train the grass to send down deeps roots. If the roots are established nice and deep, then several days of hot dry weather won't hurt them - they can still get water from deep down.

Another advantage of doing this is that weeds generally are shallow rooted. A couple days of hot and dry might selectively stress and kill the weeds and leave your deep-rooted grass alone.
Yep...that's the ideal....IF you can get your environment to the ideal state to begin with. Unfortunately..a wide variety of factors conspire against that...and so in many cases one is better off watering more frequently.
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My husband mows our lawn 2x a week and every other week he leaves the clippings on the lawn. The other weeks we put them in our compost pile.

BTW, watering isn't the problem if the OP has fescue or rye grass, which they stated they had. Watering will help, but these cold weather grasses will turn brown in the dead heat of summer or during prolonged hot spells. I bet the lawn looks great in cooler months! We have bermuda in our back yard and it's amazing in the summer, but looks like crap in the winter. We don't mind because all the leaves are off the trees and it's not so pretty anyway. We also have a lot of yard parties and the bermuda can take a beating.

One thing you can do is a blend of cold and warm-season grass. Guy across the street does this. In the spring he overseeds with bermuda, in the fall he aeriates and overseeds with fescue. Best looking lawn ever.
I was able to kill the crabgrass and I plan on aerating and reseeding with Kentucky Bluegrass. The bluegrass seems to withstand summer heat and is durable.
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