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Old 09-05-2019, 08:09 AM   #16
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The only natural predator that can survive up here are woodpeckers, and there just ain't that many - we have a pair in my ancient birch tree up front, they're pretty fat this year... I don't think they can keep up - and the whole neighborhood is infested, plus the wild area too. They use a spray that's safe, like for most sprays you gotta have your neighbors permission to spray it, but this stuff is supposedly safe for peeps/pets and environment, its recommended by the forestry department for personal trees - like they don't want beetle kill around houses either - fire and wind hazard, they fall over roads and hit power lines, etc.

The state won't get rid of the beetle, like there's not going to be an introduction of any predictors or anything, these guys help mulch the dead felled spruces (which there's a lot) and make them "usable" to the rest of the forest ecology - basically in the wild, they're really good guys. They take down the weak spruces so younger/stronger plants can grow in, they also open up the bark of downed spruces so that other critters/plants can get into the resources of the tree cores and ultimately fertilize the whole system. But that's in the wild, in suburbia they're a major fire hazard and the fire departments hate em heh Big Lake went up about 30 years ago, worst, most expensive fire ever... And of course this year you lower 48'ers sent all your heat up here so we're on FIRE - and a lot of it is because of these little guys. Ultimately all good for mother nature though, recycle and circle around the growth to come out stronger in the end.
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Old 09-05-2019, 12:20 PM   #17
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Being a bit of a research nerd I had to look up the little buggers and see if I could save the blue spruce heh

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Old 09-05-2019, 12:42 PM   #18
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AK has a different perspective for sure. Here, the mandate is suppression of everything including the bugs, and suppression of the fires, too. See all the good that's done us.

Need to re-tune the propaganda a bit . . . .

" . . . . can [defecate] in the woods."
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I guess I thought Canada and Alaska had the same kinda forestry program - leave it alone unless it's around houses/town/village. Around population we cut out all the underbrush and try to keep it cleaned up - but what the state defines as "around population" is pretty slim - aka 10'-15' LOL
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I guess I thought Canada and Alaska had the same kinda forestry program - leave it alone unless it's around houses/town/village. Around population we cut out all the underbrush and try to keep it cleaned up - but what the state defines as "around population" is pretty slim - aka 10'-15' LOL
Given the fires we've had in places like Paradise, maybe 15 miles might be better.
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Last I heard, Plumas County has an uncontained fire. It's so beautiful there, huge pines & firs all lined up in thick forest.

I was thinking about that. . . the Sierra is so vast, how could they control all the underbrush? When I went to school in Omaha, I was surprised by the the neat "woods" with no underbrush as compared to the Sierra where I'd backpacked with absolutely wild underbrush & fallen trees among giants.
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Well there's some good news, just got the estimate from the tree folk and it's only like 3 grand to have 3 spruce taken down (turns out another one had been hit.) get the remaining two oldish ones that need it sprayed, have a huge female cottonwood by the main driveway removed, and remove a huge birch in the back that's in the way of my deck + removal of all the stumps and the debris/wood from it all. I was expecting a far, far higher bill for all of it.

These guys are so pro they said they'd have it all done in 5 hours. \o/
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Neighbors across the street had all their infested spruces taken down yesterday. Ours come down as soon as they can get us on the schedule - early October. It's pretty sad looking at the red tags on em

On the other hand here's my new "focal point" for the yard:

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Always been fond of the character this old birch has. There's snarls and knots and crazy stuff happening in there - looks neat without the leaves. We're thinking to expand the front yard all the way to it's trunks (it's actually two birch that grafted together ages ago.)

Also, there's a young spruce tree in there, maybe 2 inches around right now. When the big blue spruce on the right is taken down it's going to grow like a weed in the sun. It's about 8 to 10 foot further away from the house than the blue spruce was so it leaves room for the garage and entry addition(s). I'm going to pamper it a bit and see how it goes.
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