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Old 08-02-2019, 10:30 AM   #1
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Here's a link where a guy in Michigan started a fire while using a blowtorch to kill weeds.

I suspect (dearly hope) that those weed torches are safer!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mi...cid=spartanntp
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Some (idiot) previous owner of my house put a fire pit in the lower level of the wood deck. Had a fire last night but to feel safe about it I spray down the deck with the hose prior to lighting the fire and then about every 10-15 minutes while the fire is burning plus hitting anything that comes out of the fire and hits the deck. The fire pit is staying but that section of deck is getting dismantled some day soon....

I don't own a torch (yet...) so I don't have to worry about burning weeds at least.
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I don't even dare think about burning weeds out here. Might be the one to start the next Paradise Inferno.

It's Roundup for me, possible tumors and all.
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Oh My Frigging GOD!!

How on earth is this legal? Why is it available to consumers? I can see the benefits for smoke eaters and such, but for normal consumers, NFW!!
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Oh My Frigging GOD!!

How on earth is this legal? Why is it available to consumers? I can see the benefits for smoke eaters and such, but for normal consumers, NFW!!
We can certainly agree on that much!
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We can certainly agree on that much!

How well do palm trees ( in dry air) burn?
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How well do palm trees ( in dry air) burn?
Wet palms, i.e., live tissue, not well. They're watery as can be. Palms don't saturate themselves with oils etc., that make them flame when green like pines and Eucalyptus do.

The parts you have to worry about are dried parts, especially the leaves and dead flower and fruit stalks.

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We palms, i.e., live tissue, not well. They're watery as can be. Palms don't saturate themselves with oils etc., that make them flame when green like pines and Eucalyptus do.

The parts you have to worry about are dried parts, especially the leaves and dead flower and fruit stalks.

Where does palm oil come from? That's a favorite in Africa
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It depends a bit on the exact species, and the current moisture content rather than just the dry air.

Between dry fronds and the oil content of the wood, a lot of them go up like lighting a torch.

Big problem is in a wind, the fronds throw a lot of burning embers. They can start a lot of other things on fire.
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Where does palm oil come from? That's a favorite in Africa
That's from the seeds. There's also a South American species.

But most palms don't have any oil in their seeds. I don't have oil palms at my place.

Some plants are designed to burn, like much of the California coastal sage scrub as well as plants like Pride of Madera.
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It depends a bit on the exact species, and the current moisture content rather than just the dry air.

Between dry fronds and the oil content of the wood, a lot of them go up like lighting a torch.

Big problem is in a wind, the fronds throw a lot of burning embers. They can start a lot of other things on fire.
Burning palm wood is tough, I know. I've got lots of it, and it tends to smolder instead. Even when it dries out, it picks water right up and gets really sodden very fast, mostly because of its loose structure. Dry fine-grained dicot wood like ash and maple are much better firewood.

As far as I know, I've never heard of palms with oil in their wood, though I'd be very curious to know otherwise, particularly if I happen to have one planted near me.

My very favorite firewood is Canary Island pine. Even a huge, dried piece will burn like crazy once ignited, with little or no help.

The HUGE palm hazard is the tendency of Washingtonia fan palms to accumulate a "skirt" of dead leaves, which sure can burn like hell, as you describe, and even cook the growth bud of the plant.

I don't have any of those, though. Not enough space, and too much of a palm snob.
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Where does palm oil come from? That's a favorite in Africa
They boil the juice from the nuts and separate it.
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I was reading "How the world got hooked on palm oil." in the Guardian & it had this picture.


Edit: And it disappeared. . .
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Oil palms are tropical, and California is not tropical. Though many of us palm nuts try to pretend it is.
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