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Old 09-18-2017, 10:08 AM   #1
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This can't be good right ?


in the home we moved into about a month ago one of the gutters bleeds out right next to the corner of the house. Tons of water being released right here at this corner into the ground, a few inches away from the foundation. I am thinking this cannot be good. What are your thoughts about this configuration? Could the ground really absorb a ton of water over the course of a two or three days storm and not soften the ground under the foundation? Seems hard to believe. What would you do in this situation? Thank you
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:20 AM   #2
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Does your land grade away or puddle/pond.

You could always put on full gutter downspouts and run it out further .

If you are a slab foundation with no basement (likely) I doubt you're going to have a problem

(Interesting using chains in the high desert. We use them in Colorado to avoid freezing downspouts.)
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:27 AM   #3
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We see that up here but the water lands in a catch basin with gravel to move it away in pipes just below the surface.
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it is a crawlspace foundation
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it is a crawlspace foundation
Are you getting water in that area under the house?
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:38 AM   #6
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So we'll have a better understanding of the drainage at that point, put a 2 foot level on the ground where the chain touches and tell us the distance the other end of the level end is from the ground.

Something else to determine if there will be possible damage is after a lengthy wet spell check the moisture of the dirt close to the house and compare that to the soil moisture in the drainage direction.
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If roughly similar to Dana Point, you probably have a perimeter stem wall foundation (no footer) and sometimes they are subject to subsidence... depends on your actual soils and their bearing.

Is ypur crawl space well vented, or does it get moist.

From the pic, kinda looks like your land does grade away to the back yard... if it collects just at that one point..... just cut/dig a gentle swale to guide any water away.
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(Interesting using chains in the high desert. We use them in Colorado to avoid freezing downspouts.)
Interesting. I always thought chains were just a design element (and I think they are cool looking). Do you not have a problem of ice building up on the chains in layers and becoming thick and heavy? Or do you just go out every now and again and give them a whack?
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Interesting. I always thought chains were just a design element (and I think they are cool looking). Do you not have a problem of ice building up on the chains in layers and becoming thick and heavy? Or do you just go out every now and again and give them a whack?
Yes.... basically..

We do very securly anchor the gutter at our down spout chains.

Sometimes the ice reaches the ground and the iscycle becomes self supporting... but as it gets very thick, I just will knock off several big chunks.

Generally, we just use them on the N and E sides.
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Curious: why are the chains anchored in the ground?
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Looks perfectly fine to me. Most builders don't bother to install gutters so all the water runs off the roof cutting a ditch in the ground across the entire length of the roof and splattering dirt and mud all over the house.. As long as the ground is graded to the water runs away from the house, it'll be fine.
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The ground is not sloped away from the house, if anything it is sloped towards the house for a good 8 feet out
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For that 8 feet.... does it grade down after that and then can you cut a swale.

How old is the home...(you just told us you moved in).... is there any sign of settlement.? If an older home, with no evident problem, you probably don't have a problem.

Is you crawl space wet.

Some ground percolates fine and you may have no problem. You have not told us of any problem yet.

Or, if it makes you feel good, put in a shallow french drain or a sump pump for that matter.

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The ground is not sloped away from the house, if anything it is sloped towards the house for a good 8 feet out
Well.... That was not well graded, ......you could regrade (if possible with a lower slope)
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I agree the grading is not good at all. Have not checked the crawl space. I will do that next
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